Carwow - BMW M8 GC v Audi RS6 v AMG E63 S v Porsche Panamera

Mani59 · 09-19-2020, 03:10 AM

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Belugs · 09-19-2020, 06:55 AM

M8GC is a beast for sure! I'm impressed by the E63s performance-Definitely not a push over. But wait....what are the engineers at Audi doing? That RS6 seems so slow in the performance department!

AlexFL · 09-19-2020, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Belugs

M8GC is a beast for sure! I'm impressed by the E63s performance-Definitely not a push over. But wait....what are the engineers at Audi doing? That RS6 seems so slow in the performance department!

That's why no American RS6/RS7 will ever remain stock

M8GC is a total beast, completely destroyed the competition. That expensive Panamera is such a disappointment.

Wolfman64 · 09-19-2020, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

That's no American RS6/RS7 will ever remain stock

M8GC is a total beast, completely destroyed the competition. That expensive Panamera is such a disappointment.

Still a bit disappointing that Audi wasn’t trying to match the current performance standard. The Performance models won’t change that.

I was frankly even surprised that the E63s facelift didn’t get a power bump to match up with the M5c.

Neptune7 · 09-19-2020, 11:42 PM

Those 22" cast rims have massive rotational inertia. With 20" forged lightweight rims, the car may post better times.

AUSf22 · 09-21-2020, 10:50 AM

Damn, the Audi got slaughtered in every single challenge

It is a good looking car tho

TXSchnee · 09-21-2020, 11:02 AM

Glad I didn't plunk down a deposit on the RS6... Did I miss if they allowed the Panamera to hit the boost button? That allows full electric and ICE power for 20 seconds (different than the LC). I think, out of the 4, I would go with the MB E63S wagon.

LSM · 09-21-2020, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

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Originally Posted by Belugs

M8GC is a beast for sure! I'm impressed by the E63s performance-Definitely not a push over. But wait....what are the engineers at Audi doing? That RS6 seems so slow in the performance department!

That's why no American RS6/RS7 will ever remain stock

M8GC is a total beast, completely destroyed the competition. That expensive Panamera is such a disappointment.

Panamera just went through LCI and new for 2021. I think Porsche was sick of getting destroyed and revamped the lineup. Eager to see the battle of the LCI's

2021 M5 comp, E63, Panamera Turbo and M8
Comp (not LCI)

The M8 is one fast car!

Eddien123 · 09-21-2020, 11:14 AM

Audi for looks, BMW for performance, Porsche for refinement and Mercedes to trade in

P1 · 09-21-2020, 11:18 AM

That Porsche has got to be one of the best looking cars out there currently. And these drag races are so silly. Who cares.

jstein55 · 09-21-2020, 11:19 AM

Impressive race, although from the second roll BMW could use a bit of help in being a bit quicker in response compared to the MB and Porsche which were quicker.

As for me, I'd probably take the Porsche in its refreshed GTS/Turbo form, the 8GC is beautiful, but I love a wagon, especially the look of the Panny wagon, though knowing its lack of practicality I'd go for an E63S as the best all rounder. As for the Audi, it sure is beautiful, hopefully they'll get their performance numbers up now that the entire class is using what use to be their secret weapon (AWD).

spuntyb · 09-21-2020, 11:36 AM

Would gladly take any one of these, although the Panny ST is

AlexFL · 09-21-2020, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jstein55

Impressive race, although shows that a dual-clutch would really make these new M's even better, the Panny and AMG shot off much quicker and aggressively compared to the Bimmer and Audi using ZF's.

Where do you see this? I see Mat in the BMW taking the lead immediately after the launch.

jstein55 · 09-21-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jstein55

Impressive race, although shows that a dual-clutch would really make these new M's even better, the Panny and AMG shot off much quicker and aggressively compared to the Bimmer and Audi using ZF's.

Where do you see this? I see Mat in the BMW taking the lead immediately after the launch.

The roll race in sports mode (7:12), the Panny and AMG passed the 8 and RS6 when in 3rd gear from a roll. I rephrased my original post, it wasn't the dual clutch but throttle response that delayed it, just edited it to reflect that.

Alex_bm · 09-21-2020, 12:05 PM

At least in Canada, RS6 is substantially cheaper compared to M8. More comparable to M850 really.

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Originally Posted by Wolfman64

Still a bit disappointing that Audi wasn’t trying to match the current performance standard. The Performance models won’t change that.

I was frankly even surprised that the E63s facelift didn’t get a power bump to match up with the M5c.

bjcarls · 09-21-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Belugs

That RS6 seems so slow in the performance department!

That's what initially got me looking at BMW 20 years ago. Audi never had 5 star motors engines - always slightly slower, more benign engines. I love the look of the RS6 Avant though.

10" · 09-21-2020, 12:35 PM

Drag races like this mattered when cars were much slower

These cars are ALL way too fast already most people will never use them as the video shows in any regular way.

It doesn't really matter who is 1st or 4th.
These people just make videos to make $$

If you think Audi sit around racing their prototype against other cars you'd be mistaken lol.

TX3M · 09-21-2020, 12:48 PM

To be fair, 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are not the big concern for Audi. They are more focused on the total package when they engineer their vehicles, and they do it very well.

Yes, the M8 is a total beast.

AlexFL · 09-21-2020, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TX3M

To be fair, 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are not the big concern for Audi. They are more focused on the total package when they engineer their vehicles, and they do it very well.

Yes, the M8 is a total beast.

I also think that VW intentionally sets the performance output of the Audi RS lower to avoid direct competition with their Porsche counterparts.

noushy · 09-21-2020, 01:57 PM

We have a RS6 Avant on order for my wife. When it arrives will give you all a real comparison vs the M8. But in general BMW and MB are usually faster with more power and aggressive trans setups.

Noushy

R0ut3r · 09-21-2020, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 10"

Drag races like this mattered when cars were much slower

These cars are ALL way too fast already most people will never use them as the video shows in any regular way.

It doesn't really matter who is 1st or 4th.
These people just make videos to make $$

If you think Audi sit around racing their prototype against other cars you'd be mistaken lol.

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Originally Posted by 10"

Drag races like this mattered when cars were much slower

These cars are ALL way too fast already most people will never use them as the video shows in any regular way.

It doesn't really matter who is 1st or 4th.
These people just make videos to make $$

If you think Audi sit around racing their prototype against other cars you'd be mistaken lol.

In totally agree. Case and point: I just blindly got an X4M thinking it would be great to drive a 500hp little suv but the fact is the whole thing is designed for journalist testing/ car magazines. In real life it has no low end torque and struggles in day to day use. My F90 M5 was better at representing itself honestly but it seems its only a matter of time until the "performance" badges all become a "story" built for marketing hype and not anything to really enjoy on a day to day basis.

Even my 992 C4S feels like they pushed a bit too much to make numbers... but at least it has a fun dual clutch ZF (PDK) not that ZF 8HP stuff which is in seemingly everything with a 6TT or V8TT these days...

TX3M · 09-21-2020, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

I also think that VW intentionally sets the performance output of the Audi RS lower to avoid direct competition with their Porsche counterparts.

Good point Alex.

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