Video: M8C Review (Rory Reid)

jjasonSU · 12-29-2019, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SINasTER

It's so great, the already made a stop sale on these...

Quality hasn't been present at BMW since at least 10 years now. Next car ain't going to be a BMW unless they can prove that quality and design has gone up and maintenance has gone way down!

Ok. See you next year

georgere · 12-30-2019, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SINasTER

It's so great, the already made a stop sale on these...

Quality hasn't been present at BMW since at least 10 years now. Next car ain't going to be a BMW unless they can prove that quality and design has gone up and maintenance has gone way down!

I m more critic than blind supporter of BMW however been driving BMW exclusively for the last 15 years simply because could not find nothing better on cost, value, features, and fun basis. My current is 2020 m550.
While there are things to improve for them, I must say maintenance cost is low and quality of cars is good. What are you referring to specifically?
About stop sale, it's only applicable to certain models produced in a certain period where they found a defect in manufacturing. Unfortunate but it happens. At least they did take ownership of the problem.

Al Pinã · 12-30-2019, 11:15 AM

Decent review, but he loses me at the end by comparing prices with Bentley and Aston Martin. The base M8C starts at $133K, fully loaded with every option it would still be well under $180K

The Bentley with zero options starts at $202K, the Aston is $198K. If we're being realistic, by the time someone options either one of these "rivals" even modestly, they'd be pushing $220K-$250K. So in reality we're looking at between $80-$100K difference between the Bimmer and it's supposed competition. Once you begin to add in variables such as 3 year free maintenance with the BMW, along with insurance costs, you're looking at an even wider price margin.

DL335D · 12-31-2019, 09:02 PM

Amazing car, but can someone tell me what's up with the tiny rear brake calipers? Weight savings? They look like the same calipers that were on my 2014 328.

Art__Vandelay · 01-11-2020, 03:24 AM

I had the opposite experience so far. The F80 is my 4th BMW (M3 E46, 135i Coupe, M3 E92 and now the M3 F80) and I don't remember I had even one issue. But I also take care of my cars, moderate driving during the break-in period, no high-revving with cold engine etc.

brad850csi · 01-11-2020, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DL335D

Amazing car, but can someone tell me what's up with the tiny rear brake calipers? Weight savings? They look like the same calipers that were on my 2014 328.

That is because of the electronic handbrake built into the backside of the caliper, it is easier to have a two piece sliding caliper that you can move rather than a fixed 2 or 4 piston caliper that can’t move.

Look closely at the rear brakes on some super cars and you’ll see a second small caliper (usually black so it doesn’t stand out) or a section at either end of the caliper that look quite different where the screw part is to push the pad into the disc

brad850csi · 01-11-2020, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINA_DREAMS

Decent review, but he loses me at the end by comparing prices with Bentley and Aston Martin. The base M8C starts at $133K, fully loaded with every option it would still be well under $180K

The Bentley with zero options starts at $202K, the Aston is $198K. If we're being realistic, by the time someone options either one of these "rivals" even modestly, they'd be pushing $220K-$250K. So in reality we're looking at between $80-$100K difference between the Bimmer and it's supposed competition. Once you begin to add in variables such as 3 year free maintenance with the BMW, along with insurance costs, you're looking at an even wider price margin.

I see it more as a cut price GT than a 911 or other sports car competitor. What car is closer?

Al Pinã · 01-11-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINA_DREAMS

Decent review, but he loses me at the end by comparing prices with Bentley and Aston Martin. The base M8C starts at $133K, fully loaded with every option it would still be well under $180K

The Bentley with zero options starts at $202K, the Aston is $198K. If we're being realistic, by the time someone options either one of these "rivals" even modestly, they'd be pushing $220K-$250K. So in reality we're looking at between $80-$100K difference between the Bimmer and it's supposed competition. Once you begin to add in variables such as 3 year free maintenance with the BMW, along with insurance costs, you're looking at an even wider price margin.

I see it more as a cut price GT than a 911 or other sports car competitor. What car is closer?

It really seems to be in a league of its own. What I don't understand is that it's lacking many of the features that make the 7-Series so special. For the same money you can get a loaded B7 Alpina that's almost every bit as quick, has higher top speed, and creature comforts that make the M8 look almost spartan.

brad850csi · 01-11-2020, 01:57 PM

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It really seems to be in a league of its own. What I don't understand is that it's lacking many of the features that make the 7-Series so special. For the same money you can get a loaded B7 Alpina that's almost every bit as quick, has higher top speed, and creature comforts that make the M8 look almost spartan.

Yeah but which one will go around corners quicker? Also if the limiter was removed I’m sure the M8 top speed would be higher due to the smaller frontal area

Al Pinã · 01-11-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINA_DREAMS

It really seems to be in a league of its own. What I don't understand is that it's lacking many of the features that make the 7-Series so special. For the same money you can get a loaded B7 Alpina that's almost every bit as quick, has higher top speed, and creature comforts that make the M8 look almost spartan.

Yeah but which one will go around corners quicker? Also if the limiter was removed I’m sure the M8 top speed would be higher due to the smaller frontal area

Without the limiter they claim 189mph for the M8C. Alpina B7 will hit at least 205mph.

Wolfman64 · 01-11-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINA_DREAMS

It really seems to be in a league of its own. What I don't understand is that it's lacking many of the features that make the 7-Series so special. For the same money you can get a loaded B7 Alpina that's almost every bit as quick, has higher top speed, and creature comforts that make the M8 look almost spartan.

The B7 is a luxurious boat, no matter how fast it is. Wonderful fast cars, but not sporty. Weight is the enemy here so I can see why BMW dropped some features (which I would have enjoyed!) to loose weight. The M8 is still a porker

But there is a big difference between 3.5 to 60 and 3sec. Half a sec to 60 and more in a quarter mile is a world of difference. This appears more relevant than top speed in the daily driving experience..

Top speed is more or less academic because few will take it there. I maybe wrong but assume that the Alpina simply unrestricted (like Bentleys). Unless geared differently the restriction will be the top speed differentiator.

Wolfman64 · 01-11-2020, 05:07 PM

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Without the limiter they claim 189mph for the M8C. Alpina B7 will hit at least 205mph.

Drivers package ups the top speed but restricts it to 189mph. It's not unrestricted.
Our E63s is restricted to 186mph but goes well above 200 if fully unlocked.

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