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      02-20-2019, 03:48 PM   #45
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Maybe it's because I'm too young but I don't care for any of those '90s Japanese sports cars. They all look like jelly beans to me. RX7 was probably the best looking of the bunch.

The NSX aged better due to its angular design, but I still think it looks awkward as hell next to other sports cars of the day. European cars truly take a dump on everything else, even to this day.
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Maybe it's because I'm too young but I don't care for any of those '90s Japanese sports cars. They all look like jelly beans to me. RX7 was probably the best looking of the bunch.

The NSX aged better due to its angular design, but I still think it looks awkward as hell next to other sports cars of the day. European cars truly take a dump on everything else, even to this day.
Disagree strongly.

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The early 90's were very much a low point for European sporty cars and the attack of cheaper, more capable Japanese cars spurred the next few rounds of each of the above (aside from the dumb 8er) to be significantly better. Hell, Ferrari even acknowledged that removing the engine for an oil change might be a little stupid.
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Disagree strongly.

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The early 90's were very much a low point for European sporty cars and the attack of cheaper, more capable Japanese cars spurred the next few rounds of each of the above (aside from the dumb 8er) to be significantly better. Hell, Ferrari even acknowledged that removing the engine for an oil change might be a little stupid.
I see your point but I still like the look of all those cars lol, besides maybe the 8er. That only looked nice in higher spec versions.

Btw I wasn't attacking the Japanese performance and value credentials, just the styling.
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I agree. All of those are awful. I admit to terrorizing Japanese cars with my mom's SL500, but it was still ugly.

I didn't like 911's until we hit the 993.

The F355 was mighty similar to the 348, but it's still one of my favorite designs.

Just in terms of what was out when the NSX arrived, it was more competitive than a lot of people remember. It stayed around for WAY too long and looked stupid compared to the competition by the time it finally disappeared. But right at first...
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Yes. Still one of, if not the best Japanese designs. Silver is far from its best color, but just to play fair:
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My dad had one until last year. Fantastic little thing. The scale of them compared to their contemporaries is what really worked for me. Just a completely different size.

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FD RX-7 is a timeless classic and arguably the prettiest car ever to come out of Japan.
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The early 90's were very much a low point for European sporty cars and the attack of cheaper, more capable Japanese cars spurred the next few rounds of each of the above (aside from the dumb 8er) to be significantly better. Hell, Ferrari even acknowledged that removing the engine for an oil change might be a little stupid.

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I dated a girl back in the day, her father bought all the cars for the family including her Matador....he loved AMC, his wife had the Gremlin. The upside was that the front seats folded completely flat turning that thing into a sex pit....this girl did it like a pack of wild dogs.....Ugly car though, if it wasn't for the sex I'd never have gotten into that thing.
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I dated a girl back in the day, her father bought all the cars for the family including her Matador....he loved AMC, his wife had the Gremlin. The upside was that the front seats folded completely flat turning that thing into a sex pit....this girl did it like a pack of wild dogs.....Ugly car though, if it wasn't for the sex I'd never have gotten into that thing.
This one really deserves the crown title of ugliest of the ugly
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Ugly cars, such as Japanese sports cars from the 90s and others

Very few cars in this thread are actually ugly. The AMC of course being one of them , albeit neither from the 80's or 90's.
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This one really deserves the crown title of ugliest of the ugly
I actually lusted after the Matador. Then again, my tastes are suspect. I love the Aztek my GF owned. Great car, lots of room, drove nice. I also loved the Pinto my GF had in the late 70's, then her Vega after she wrecked the Pinto.
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I actually lusted after the Matador. Then again, my tastes are suspect. I love the Aztek my GF owned. Great car, lots of room, drove nice. I also loved the Pinto my GF had in the late 70's, then her Vega after she wrecked the Pinto.
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The early 90's were very much a low point for European sporty cars and the attack of cheaper, more capable Japanese cars spurred the next few rounds of each of the above (aside from the dumb 8er) to be significantly better. Hell, Ferrari even acknowledged that removing the engine for an oil change might be a little stupid.

I agree, the 90s were a low point for the Germans. The Japanese had far superior designs and reliability at that point. The Germans learned a lot from the Japanese design in the 90s and refined their cars. They were much better in the 2000s and beyond.

The 1990s was the hey day of Japanese sports cars. Most of their offerings today are disappointing and too pricey.
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I agree, the 90s were a low point for the Germans. The Japanese had far superior designs and reliability at that point. The Germans learned a lot from the Japanese design in the 90s and refined their cars. They were much better in the 2000s and beyond.

The 1990s was the hey day of Japanese sports cars. Most of their offerings today are disappointing and too pricey.
This has been my experience, and it's what drove me to buy the 135 last year.

I was shopping for a "toy" around $20,000 and Japan has zero to offer me besides heavily modifying something I wasn't going to enjoy driving off the track.

I haven't been able to convince most of my 'jdm' buddies that the 135i is a really viable tuner option now that they're so cheap, but maybe some time in the future.
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This has been my experience, and it's what drove me to buy the 135 last year.

I was shopping for a "toy" around $20,000 and Japan has zero to offer me besides heavily modifying something I wasn't going to enjoy driving off the track.

I haven't been able to convince most of my 'jdm' buddies that the 135i is a really viable tuner option now that they're so cheap, but maybe some time in the future.
Definitely, I would love to have a R32 GTR! But if it's a newer car, I'd stick with German.

I think the only Japanese cars today that are remotely close to affordable enthusiast cars are the 86 cars, the Miata, WRX and Civic Type R but none of those have the refinement if you want to drive them every day.
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This has been my experience, and it's what drove me to buy the 135 last year.

I was shopping for a "toy" around $20,000 and Japan has zero to offer me besides heavily modifying something I wasn't going to enjoy driving off the track.

I haven't been able to convince most of my 'jdm' buddies that the 135i is a really viable tuner option now that they're so cheap, but maybe some time in the future.
Definitely, I would love to have a R32 GTR! But if it's a newer car, I'd stick with German.

I think the only Japanese cars today that are remotely close to affordable enthusiast cars are the 86 cars, the Miata, WRX and Civic Type R but none of those have the refinement if you want to drive them every day.
ND Miatas are actually quite civilized, provided you're not over about 6'4" or need to carry a beer fridge or a bunch of lumber.

The CTR is also surprisingly civilized, if you don't ever look at it.

You're correct about the others.
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ND Miatas are actually quite civilized, provided you're not over about 6'4" or need to carry a beer fridge or a bunch of lumber.

The CTR is also surprisingly civilized, if you don't ever look at it.

You're correct about the others.
I went with my friend to pick up a MX5 just a few months ago. I was very impressed with the car. I love how they finally have a telescoping steering wheel and the Recaro seats were excellent. The 20hp bump gave it a good boost in power too.

CTR was good. I liked how it drove behind the wheel. But yeah, not something I'd want to be driving on daily basis.
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New Nsx is a sick looking car
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Nobody actually wanted one of those!

I like quirky cars, not fugly cars!
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This one covers both 80s and 90s
The Subaru Vortex - wouldn't be my first choice for anything.
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This one covers both 80s and 90s
The Subaru Vortex - wouldn't be my first choice for anything.
I would love to own one of these in the turbo/manual setup
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I had a poster of both of these on my wall as a teenager. They have roughly equivalent appeal to me in the present day.





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Periscope Countaches are still awesome, but the final run looks like a 56 year old lady with tons of plastic surgery still trying to convince people she's 24.
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