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      05-06-2019, 08:59 PM   #23
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Yea I know, but the cars we are talking about aren't just great In a straight line. Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 gt2 rs, even the new ZR1 corvette. BMW not capable of giving us a car that can compete with them?
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Yea I know, but the cars we are talking about aren't just great In a straight line. Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 gt2 rs, even the new ZR1 corvette. BMW not capable of giving us a car that can compete with them?
Ah I see what you mean. The M8 Competition should fill that spot although only time will tell just how good it will be.
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Yea I know, but the cars we are talking about aren't just great In a straight line. Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 gt2 rs, even the new ZR1 corvette. BMW not capable of giving us a car that can compete with them?
Ah I see what you mean. The M8 Competition should fill that spot although only time will tell just how good it will be.
The M8 will NOT compete with a 2RS or ZR1. Those are literally track cars with roll cages and etc. the M8 competes with the S63 primarily.

BMW tried creating a track car, M4GTS, and half assed it so it flopped.

BMW can develop a car to compete with the 2RS and ZR1 since they have the capabilities, but I'm going to make an educated guess and say the cost of R&D would outweigh any projected profits from that project since they'd have to start from scratch.
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BMW has quite openly stated its intention to rival the 911 with its many levels of power and track focus, so I would totally expect M8, M8 Competition, M8 CS and/or M8 CSL, ranging from 600-625ps to 700ps.

I'd love to see the M8 CS/CSL get this type of OLED tail lights which BMW has showcased, just like the M4 GTS/CS did:



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R8 is on the wrong gear when rolling. A high revving NA should be at 2nd gear, in which case it would talk away from everyone.

It's a shame.
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Yea I know, but the cars we are talking about aren't just great In a straight line. Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 gt2 rs, even the new ZR1 corvette. BMW not capable of giving us a car that can compete with them?
Ah I see what you mean. The M8 Competition should fill that spot although only time will tell just how good it will be.
The M8 will NOT compete with a 2RS or ZR1. Those are literally track cars with roll cages and etc. the M8 competes with the S63 primarily.

BMW tried creating a track car, M4GTS, and half assed it so it flopped.

BMW can develop a car to compete with the 2RS and ZR1 since they have the capabilities, but I'm going to make an educated guess and say the cost of R&D would outweigh any projected profits from that project since they'd have to start from scratch.
It's the best thing BMW has to compete with them. I know it doesn't directly compete with them. But what else can keep up with those?
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Yea I know, but the cars we are talking about aren't just great In a straight line. Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 gt2 rs, even the new ZR1 corvette. BMW not capable of giving us a car that can compete with them?
Ah I see what you mean. The M8 Competition should fill that spot although only time will tell just how good it will be.
The M8 will NOT compete with a 2RS or ZR1. Those are literally track cars with roll cages and etc. the M8 competes with the S63 primarily.

BMW tried creating a track car, M4GTS, and half assed it so it flopped.

BMW can develop a car to compete with the 2RS and ZR1 since they have the capabilities, but I'm going to make an educated guess and say the cost of R&D would outweigh any projected profits from that project since they'd have to start from scratch.
Also keep in mind that the M8 is the production car that came from the M8 racing car. It has racing in its DNA. I know it's different but the competition model is going to be fast.

I agree with you though it doesn't directly compete with it and if BMW would create one they probably won't make the profits they want to make that would make it feasible for BMW.
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I would, seen the GT-R is pure cult.
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Yea I know, but the cars we are talking about aren't just great In a straight line. Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 gt2 rs, even the new ZR1 corvette. BMW not capable of giving us a car that can compete with them?
Ah I see what you mean. The M8 Competition should fill that spot although only time will tell just how good it will be.
The M8 will NOT compete with a 2RS or ZR1. Those are literally track cars with roll cages and etc. the M8 competes with the S63 primarily.

BMW tried creating a track car, M4GTS, and half assed it so it flopped.

BMW can develop a car to compete with the 2RS and ZR1 since they have the capabilities, but I'm going to make an educated guess and say the cost of R&D would outweigh any projected profits from that project since they'd have to start from scratch.
It's the best thing BMW has to compete with them. I know it doesn't directly compete with them. But what else can keep up with those?
The ZR1 and 2RS pretty much destroy any Lamborghini, Ferrari, Mclaren, BMW, MB, Audi, etc.

Honestly, there isn't anything you can compare to those two. Especially not from BMW. I love BMW, but I'm not a fanboy and I'll admit when they're outdone.
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That BMW wasn't even broken in yet. It had 226 miles on the odo. The Audi had 19K..the Porsche had 3000..etc.

Might not have mattered overall, but it would have helped a bit.
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That Porsche is probably lighter than the 850. Also being rear engine allows for really good hookup. I'm not sure how much awd on that helped the Porsche though. Probably not much.
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850i is really supposed to be lined up against a base 911 AWD so it's slightly unfair.
That is the current base AWD 911 (the C4 hasn't been launched) and in the UK they are within £1000 of each other at RRP.

911 lighter but 850i counters with more power and torque the HP/Tonne ratio is pretty similar so I don't see this as an unfair fight at all.

The 850 got a dreadful launch though compared to the others.
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I still don't understand why BMW refuses to build a car that can compete with other speed demons
Because BMW has never been just about straight line acceleration.
Like any BMW will keep pace with a 911, GTR or R8 on the track. Maybe the M4 GTS, that's it.
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That rolling race was so pointless. Third gear in manual mode when the cars have different gearing and power bands. Why not race them all in their sportiest auto modes and then floor the throttle on go?
because then you are testing kick down speed/ programming of the transmissions as well as the fact that each transmission may kick down one or more gears based on it's programme.

while indeed all 3 vehicles have different gearing ratios in their transmissions... .. they all have a 3rd gear... and magazines often test things like 30-50 and 50-70 in a particular gear, very commonly third for passing acceleration tests..

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That Porsche is probably lighter than the 850. Also being rear engine allows for really good hookup. I'm not sure how much awd on that helped the Porsche though. Probably not much.
About 800lbs lighter.
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