[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

There is definitely more engineering and tech in the 8, beginning with 4 wheel steering.. has that ever been implement on a bmw before ?

I bellieve there is also active roll stabilization front and rear as well. It has moved upmarket, whether we it or not...and it's not just a badge change .. which was what happened when the 3 series coupe became a 4.

Actually the original E31 had AHK (Aktive Hinterachskinematik) which was rear wheel steering My 850CSi has it, as did all Euro spec 850CSi, NA spec however didn't.

The F01/02 and F07/10/11 also had it available and their G series replacements have it as an option too.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

Actually the original E31 had AHK (Aktive Hinterachskinematik) which was rear wheel steering My 850CSi has it, as did all Euro spec 850CSi, NA spec however didn't.

The F01/02 and F07/10/11 also had it available and their G series replacements have it as an option too.

My F01 has it and it's many years old.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by Taheemr

The rear end is a mess !!!

To me this car looks like a 2015+ Mustang : am I just seeing things but the green house and rear 1/4 glass and the rear end, plus the lower part of the front fascia. I'm not really liking this thing.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

Actually the original E31 had AHK (Aktive Hinterachskinematik) which was rear wheel steering My 850CSi has it, as did all Euro spec 850CSi, NA spec however didn't.

The F01/02 and F07/10/11 also had it available and their G series replacements have it as an option too.

Excellent.. so this is for the most part , tech that has been on the 8er before... I can't recall at this point if it is standard on the new 8er .. . but if it is (as opposed to being optional ) that pretty much exactly dovetails with my comments that the car hasn't just been moved upmarket via a badge change..

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

methinks you may not understand what a concept is...


con·cept. [ˈkänˌsept] NOUN

an abstract idea; a general notion.

"structuralism is a difficult concept" ·
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synonyms: idea · notion · conception · abstraction · conceptualization · theory · hypothesis · postulation · belief · conviction · opinion · view · image · impression · picture

1)
•a plan or intention; a conception.

2)
•an idea or invention to help sell or publicize a commodity.
3)
•(of a car or other vehicle) produced as an experimental model to test the viability of new design features.


4)
•philosophy
an idea or mental picture of a group or class of objects formed by combining all their aspects.



Clearly some of the design ideas you like were not utilized ... but the very definition of concept is that not all items are intended for the final design

In other words - a concept isn't the final design.

You are correct in the abstract but BMW called the later concept vehicles "near production", so a strong similarity can be assumed.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Taheemr

The rear end is a mess !!!

Yeah that's what I said before, rear is a failure in my eyes, too much going on.

[JRobUSC]

Originally Posted by Eau_Rouge111

This thing is MASSIVE!!!...my garage is 20 feet long....long enough to basically fit anything... and this thing looks like it won't fit in it

It's actually a couple inches shorter than the 6-Series coupe was, and 6" shorter than a MB S-class coupe. It looks longer than it is because it's low and wide.

[PARTS@STBMW]

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

6" shorter than a MB S-class coupe. It looks longer than it is because it's low and wide.

Actually as much as 7 inch 1/2 or 19 cm. Even the 8 GC might not be as long as the S Coupé.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

You are correct in the abstract but BMW called the later concept vehicles "near production", so a strong similarity can be assumed.

Well.. most of us know since sometime around second grade... what happens when one ASSUMES..

[The_One]

Originally Posted by Vinboyblue

its the exhaust tips, I really hate those trapezoid ish
look how good the quad pipes look on the m8!!

Because quad tips are supposed to be for M cars! That's why they go with square shaped ones for M Performance vehicles

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Well.. most of us know since sometime around second grade... what happens when one ASSUMES..

Consider it wishful thinking then. Since my "assumption" that BMW will turn every desirable concept cars into a boring production model is proven to be consistently spot-on.