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      06-09-2020, 12:56 PM   #23
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Impressive and equally is the 992 with "only" 450hp running even faster.
Totally agree....first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the numbers...
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Wow, the GT63S time is proving to be pretty hard to beat.
It wouldn't be hard, just put sport cup 2s on.
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Figures aren't that impressive and not sure other numbers are accurate
The 911 turbo s is 7:17 round the ring

A Giulia Quadrifoglio is also quicker than the M5 I think
Amg Gt s 4d is 7:25 - faster

Etc.
It isn't fast enough in my view for the money...
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No you're wrong it is impressive. Is it expensive? Of course it is, but the people who buy this don't care about the price tag. This isn't meant to be a track car and almost no one will buy it for that purpose. So the fact that it sits behind 991 variations of the GT3 and Turbo IS IMPRESSIVE. Just because the car isn't for you doesn't mean you need to discredit it. That's not how logic works lol
Actually I like the car
Just wouldn't buy it for its Nurburgring time!
I'm in an f90 M5 comp and have enquired about the grancoupe version of the m8 comp
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      06-09-2020, 02:13 PM   #26
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Actually I like the car
Just wouldn't buy it for its Nurburgring time!
I'm in an f90 M5 comp and have enquired about the grancoupe version of the m8 comp
Same as you my friend. I love the F90 and think an M8 GC is a great buy once it runs through its depreciation course.
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Wow, the GT63S time is proving to be pretty hard to beat.
Let's see the Sport Auto track time, not the manufacturer one.
Also there is an important tyre difference too.
Auto Bild tracked M8 GC with 4s tyres faster than GT 63 S with the same tyres, but slower than the Merc equipped with Cup 2s.. We'll see what the CS models will bring
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Very impressive for such a heavy car. Better then most cars that are over 500lbs lighter.

Let's see CS version
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Very impressive for such a heavy car. Better then most cars that are over 500lbs lighter.

Let's see CS version
Yup forget about m5 CS, if hardcore anything this would be the one in the line up
I personally like to see M5 CS revealed, which should be soon
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Wow, the GT63S time is proving to be pretty hard to beat.
Let's see the Sport Auto track time, not the manufacturer one.
Also there is an important tyre difference too.
Auto Bild tracked M8 GC with 4s tyres faster than GT 63 S with the same tyres, but slower than the Merc equipped with Cup 2s.. We'll see what the CS models will bring
Interesting. That's a good data point.

I heard the Cup 2s are really track focused and not good on regular roads in the wet. So if I get the CS I may have to get MP4SSs for DD use.
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Figures aren't that impressive and not sure other numbers are accurate
The 911 turbo s is 7:17 round the ring

A Giulia Quadrifoglio is also quicker than the M5 I think
Amg Gt s 4d is 7:25 - faster

Etc.
It isn't fast enough in my view for the money...
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You have to take any Giulia QV time with a huge grain of salt. They use what is the definition of a cheater tire. Throw the tires the QV has on any of those cars and lap times would drop a lot. Cars aren't supposed to just be faster the more expensive they are. Usually the fastest cars are the smaller lighter ones that may be cheaper than their larger counterparts which have more luxury. Your whole reasoning doesn't make much sense.
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Interesting. That's a good data point.

I heard the Cup 2s are really track focused and not good on regular roads in the wet. So if I get the CS I may have to get MP4SSs for DD use.
I'm still driving Sport Cup 2s in Auckland in winter with my M6, its fine, just imagine you're on cheap chinese tyres in the wet/cold
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It wouldn't be hard, just put sport cup 2s on.
+1 Exactly! I looked at the video where driver Mr. Pilgrim had only PSS on the M4 CS and he said it would have been 2 seconds faster if he has the cup 2's on which is how the BMW engineers had designed the vehicle for the specific tires. Anyone?
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+1 Exactly! I looked at the video where driver Mr. Pilgrim had only PSS on the M4 CS and he said it would have been 2 seconds faster if he has the cup 2's on which is how the BMW engineers had designed the vehicle for the specific tires. Anyone?

Wasn't familiar so looked it up. If the M4 CS could get ~2 seconds back with SC2s on that 3-mile track, I imagine the M8 would definitely get a healthy chunk back on the 12-mile 'Ring.
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You have to take any Giulia QV time with a huge grain of salt. They use what is the definition of a cheater tire. Throw the tires the QV has on any of those cars and lap times would drop a lot. Cars aren't supposed to just be faster the more expensive they are. Usually the fastest cars are the smaller lighter ones that may be cheaper than their larger counterparts which have more luxury. Your whole reasoning doesn't make much sense.
Does anyone have a time on the Taycan Turbo S?
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Does anyone have a time on the Taycan Turbo S?
Don't think there is a confirmed time on a production car. They showed a 7:42 with a pre-launch model...
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The mag ran 992 C2S at 7:30 when Porsche pro driver did the run was 7:25. As Vic55 said with only 445hp. That's flying on a car that has 172 Hp less than M8 Comp.
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The mag ran 992 C2S at 7:30 when Porsche pro driver did the run was 7:25. As Vic55 said with only 445hp. That's flying on a car that has 172 Hp less than M8 Comp.
992 - Combination of an excellent platform with less weight.

You can overcome weight with traction and power but then there are plain physics on a track.
I still don’t see that dinging the M8 other than their marketing dept came up with these BS comparisons.
This car was not designed to compete with the 911 but the S-Class coupe and other Big GT bruisers.
I think the BMW performs exceptionally well for its weight and size.
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The mag ran 992 C2S at 7:30 when Porsche pro driver did the run was 7:25. As Vic55 said with only 445hp. That's flying on a car that has 172 Hp less than M8 Comp.
992 - Combination of an excellent platform with less weight.

You can overcome weight with traction and power but then there are plain physics on a track.
I still don't see that dinging the M8 other than their marketing dept came up with these BS comparisons.
This car was not designed to compete with the 911 but the S-Class coupe and other Big GT bruisers.
I think the BMW performs exceptionally well for its weight and size.
Agree. It has great performance for a big heavy GT car that's for sure! Great car if that's what you're looking for.

I never would cross shop a M8 and 911 they're nothing alike.

Some have recently compared them on this board and I always contended they're not competitors and feel completely different, although some have cross shopped them. I didn't cross shop them
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Fine. The virus is in the past and the Nürburgring is again open for new records. This year should be a lot of interesting things: New Porsche GT3, New Audi RS6 Avant, New Mercedes AMG GTR Black Series.

http://www.biggarage.de/info/nuerbur...s-records.html
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For those of you that say it is too expensive, it is too heavy.... look at the cars it is faster than or virtually ties. And look at how much they cost....

I own one and have never been happier with a car.
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