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Aftermarket Stereo solutions.
So let’s try and focus please on aftermarket solutions for the M8 and not get into the weeds of home studios.
My questions are, who has actually replaced or modified their HK, and what the outcomes were. Also if you could provide links to these parts that would be helpful. Looking for solutions isn’t always easy, especially given that I and many others have never modified a cars sound system. There are a lot of us stuck in the no BW lane, and I think we’d all appreciate info directly from those that have modified their HK. I’m not entirely convinced I will modify my, but I’d enjoy hearing from those that have. |
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I'm very interested in this as well. And yes, let's stay focused. Lol.
B&W wasn't available when I ordered my car. I'm not an audiophile and wasn't all that upset. If it was available, I'd probably have ordered it just to check the box, but I'm not altogether certain of that. But . . . for those of you who wanted B&W and couldn't order it, I'm veeery sorry to say that after less than two days of ownership - as a non-audiophile, as someone who may not have ordered the B&W if it had been available -- f**k, f**k, f**k, would I have been wrong. I have the HK in my X4. I have no problems with it in my X4. It's OK. It's also OK in my M8. But having a "just OK" audio system is my M8 is not OK. This is waaay too much of a high-end car to not have a high-end audio system. An M8 absolutely needs something better.
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07-02-2022, 04:39 PM | #3 |
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I wonder if just adding the Bavsound under seat woofers wouldn’t be enough?
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Check out this thread as Audiotec Fischer in Germany similar to Bavsound does speakers and an amp replacement for HK with iD7.
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I'm in the same spot. I haven't really seen many people try stuff past Bavsound which is what I assume I'll end up going with
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2022 M850 here. Couldn't get the B&W when I ordered last year. I had this equipment installed with a DSP tune using stock HK speakers (w/new subs). Installed cost is about the same as the B&W would have been and sounds FANTASTIC!
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/match/amplifiers/up-10dsp https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/match/speakers/mw-8bmw-d |
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Have you tried enabling the B&W custom settings through Bimmercode or another coding tool? This makes HK sound quite a bit better. BTW, B&W was an impressive name in audio. Unfortunately starting in the mid 2010s that all changed. And now B&W is owned by Sound United who is mostly a marketing company looking to acquire brands and retail presence. Watch B&W slowly lose their prestige....
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Had finished upgrading local M8C GC from HK to MATCH Speakers and Amp.
Customer couldn't ordered the car with B&W. So, this is the alternative route. How much better, tough to say since I am not a fan on how crispy the B&W sound. Too sharp for my ear.
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Call these guys. They did a crazy build on an M8 recently so they are intimately familiar with it.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CbLEuBq...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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The speakers are plug n play. If you try to mount it with the logo upside up, it will not screw on to the original mounting hole. While the tweeter filter, if I mount it upside up, the wires won't reach to the speaker. Unless you want to roll without the interior door panel, it doesn't matter whether the logo is upside up or upside down. The sound coming out from it won't be reversed.
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What kind of price did all that run?
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If I might make a recommendation, consider doing what I did 1st and see how satisfied you are. The shop that did my install of the Match Up 10 and 2 Match under seat subs charged me $3300 total including the DSP tune. The plan was to see if I would be satisfied changing the amp and subs only and if not go ahead and do the rest of the speaker locations. The shop owner made a gentlemans bet I would be more than satisfied and was right. He knew that the HK door and dash speakers are not the paper junk found in may stock systems. FWIW, I consider myself an audiofile and as a point of reference, in my lifetime I have installed or had installed over 20 auto audio systems and dozens of home stereo and home theater systems. It's a hobby. Regardless, the 2 stage approach makes alot of sense.
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I want to be clear, before someone bites my head off about my comment that B&W isn't a huge step up.....Here's my rationale. B&W strength is in providing an improved soundstage and accuracy through use of better drivers, more individual amplification channels, a better crossover network, and possibly a more powerful DSP for 3D imaging (though I do not know if a different DSP is used). That's most of the difference sonically. In order to truly appreciate the improvements over HK (with B&W settings enabled and HK EQ properly tuned) is to be listening while sitting still, listen to lossless music, and to have an ear for details. If this is your thing, then B&W is definitely worth the extra $, and you get the arguably cool looking LED illuminated drivers included. However, most people listen to their music while driving, with all sorts of road noise, they listen to lossy music (or satellite music which is even worse) and some may or may not have an ear for detail. This is why I mention the cool LED illumination as one of the most noticeable differences for many owners. Obviously, everyone is free to decide for themselves. And some may wildly disagree with me. That's OK. I suppose if I was building a top end BMW I'd probably tick the box just to say I got a loaded car. But I try to be a bit sensible when building my cars and choose options wisely. Options is where BMW really cashes in. The true "value" is in buying a car with zero options, which is tough to do if you're an enthusiast and on this forum. lol
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By empirical, I assume you mean "your empirical" data? By listening to FLAC files, you're the benchmark in which B&W was set when they set out to provide a higher end option. I venture a guess that most, if not nearly all owners of B&W, listen (mostly) to lossy (HD radio, Spotify, Apple music, Youtube music, etc..), Satellite, etc.. And Satellite is atrocious sounding. I have a friend who works for Sirius/XM in their Deerfield Beach, FL office where they do all the audio compression programming. Trust me, it's a sound quality sh*t show. When listening to lossy music, the benefits of B&W are watered down. And when listening while driving with road noise injected into the experience, it's even further watered down. Nevertheless, B&W sounds a bit better. It should for $3K+!! As far as BMW and options, I agree with you 100%. BMW does an amazing job of upsell. One of the best in the business. I struggle every time I order a new car.
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