[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by Avallon

it is good value tbf (for the UK),

just had a look at the US pricing, the 850i is only marginally more expensive than the 840i in the UK...

edit: Actually, it's cheaper when you take options into account!

Not sure what you mean by that as just built a M850i coupe to my new specs (Sanremo Green exterior) and Cognac / Black Individual Full Merino Leather plus all options to make it even standard to the US build plus the ones that matter including the UK service package for a full comparison.

UK £135,669 or ~$167K USD
US $117,795 (including CF trim not available in the UK and full Cognac vs Cognac/Black).

So how is anything cheaper in the UK?

[Avallon]

I meant that the US is cheaper than the UK (as per your demonstration).

[skumar55]

Originally Posted by Avallon

So...

I test drove an 840i today.

Loved the engine, the interior was great and the design was very nice

However, I was a bit underwhelmed overall - it was parked in front of a well specced 4 series and didn't seem or look that much of a 'class above' like I was expecting.

I now face a dilemma - do I go for a 4 yr lease at £690 a month (no deposit), or do I go for something like an A6, which I could either get at £490 a month over 4 years, or for £560 for 2 years, enabling me to swap when hopefully prices have come down a bit.

Maybe the wrong place to ask - but what do people think?

The B58 engine in the M440i is probably the best BMW offer in terms of performance and efficiency. I test drove the 440i M Model, it was very fast. The 8 series is awesome and stands out, but engine wise 440i is better unless you are willing to pay for the 850i M sport. My dealer also said the 8 series is good, but depreciates a lot more than other series. I would go for 440i M Model fully loaded.

[Beemer5to3]

Originally Posted by skumar55

The B58 engine in the M440i is probably the best BMW offer in terms of performance and efficiency. I test drove the 440i M Model, it was very fast. The 8 series is awesome and stands out, but engine wise 440i is better unless you are willing to pay for the 850i M sport. My dealer also said the 8 series is good, but depreciates a lot more than other series. I would go for 440i M Model fully loaded.

An M440i optioned up will be more a month than an 8 series due to the discounts available - the GFV of an 8 is higher than a 4 series.

[Dr Thrillride]

Originally Posted by Say My Name

I’m also in the 840 camp over any 4 series, but I can’t deal with beaver tooth/bugs bunny face.

The 8 also looks amazing in Skyscraper. I also like San Remo, but for me, I think I’d be more likely to get tired of a ‘color’.

Purchased the ‘23 in December. Wasn’t super impressed with power and exhaust sound initially, but now over 2k miles and this car is amazing in every way!

I did replace the Goodyear RFT tires with Continental DWS06+ 245/40 front and 275/35 rear which, to me, improved the overall looks because the new tire ratio filled out the wheel well better, actually looks lowered.

Power or lack thereof, just a great looking car!

[Dr Thrillride]

Originally Posted by skumar55

The B58 engine in the M440i is probably the best BMW offer in terms of performance and efficiency. I test drove the 440i M Model, it was very fast. The 8 series is awesome and stands out, but engine wise 440i is better unless you are willing to pay for the 850i M sport. My dealer also said the 8 series is good, but depreciates a lot more than other series. I would go for 440i M Model fully loaded.

I recall the N55 I had 9 or so years back. A lot of fun modding it. B58 is said to be way better.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by skumar55

The B58 engine in the M440i is probably the best BMW offer in terms of performance and efficiency. I test drove the 440i M Model, it was very fast. The 8 series is awesome and stands out, but engine wise 440i is better unless you are willing to pay for the 850i M sport. My dealer also said the 8 series is good, but depreciates a lot more than other series. I would go for 440i M Model fully loaded.

Doesn't the 840i have the same B58 as the 4 series?

[Avallon]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

Doesn't the 840i have the same B58 as the 4 series?

It does - although in a higher state of tune. An equivalent spec m440 is about £180 / $222 a month more than an 840i.

[Seaford]

Originally Posted by Avallon

So...

I test drove an 840i today.

Loved the engine, the interior was great and the design was very nice

However, I was a bit underwhelmed overall - it was parked in front of a well specced 4 series and didn't seem or look that much of a 'class above' like I was expecting.

I now face a dilemma - do I go for a 4 yr lease at £690 a month (no deposit), or do I go for something like an A6, which I could either get at £490 a month over 4 years, or for £560 for 2 years, enabling me to swap when hopefully prices have come down a bit.

Maybe the wrong place to ask - but what do people think?

I went from a fully loaded 330i to a fully loaded 840 GC and it’s chalk and cheese.

The cockpit technology is basically the same but the ride, materials and general all round quality/refinement in the 8 are in a totally different class.

Whether you think it is worth the money…only you will know.

[Beemer5to3]

As Seaford says, I also went from a highly specced G20 320i to a G15 840i and then to a G16 840i - the G20 platform is excellent, but the difference is very noticeable in terms of material quality, ride quality, and overall refinement in the 8 series.

[Avallon]

Thanks all for your input - I'll continue to percolate.

[skumar55]

Originally Posted by Beemer5to3

As Seaford says, I also went from a highly specced G20 320i to a G15 840i and then to a G16 840i - the G20 platform is excellent, but the difference is very noticeable in terms of material quality, ride quality, and overall refinement in the 8 series.

Didn't test drive the 840i GC, but the I am sure it is a quality drive. Only difference I would say is the 440i M now has the mild 48v mild hybrid technology which makes a huge different to performance and efficiency of the B58 engine. Def a tough call between the 2 cars, 8 series is def better looking. 4 series has the new idrive system.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by skumar55

Def a tough call between the 2 cars, 8 series is def better looking. 4 series has the new idrive system.

Agreed and the last item though iD8 would drive me personally (pun intended) to the 8-series.

[Seaford]

I forgot to mention…the 8:Series smells a lot nicer as well

[Avallon]

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by Avallon

I meant that the US is cheaper than the UK (as per your demonstration).

Yes, definitely a plus for at least one thing on this side of the pond. On your side the packages are just wacked and you need some to even get standard equipment on our side.

Most wacked market I've heard of is Australia as a brethren member there paid over $250K USD for the original 2019 M850i when they became available in his market. Wow!

[Avallon]

So.... I placed an order today for a Z4 (I previously had an e89). £600 a month inc. heated steering wheel and metallic paint. Wife wasn't impressed, referring to the San Francisco Red Zed as a 'w*nker car'.

Mulling it over just now I'm having buyer's remorse, so tomorrow I'll be phoning the dealership to see if I can change my order to an 8 series gran coupe in San Remo / Cognac. Fingers crossed they'll be able to swap it without much fuss.

[Avallon]

Thanks everyone for your input.

I've successfully changed my order to an 840i GC in San Remo with Cognac interior and 894 alloys.

I would have added driving assistance if I could get it on its own.

£703 / $875 a month, 8k miles per annum over 4 years, no deposit.

Couple of hundred more than an A6 over the term, but surprisingly, once you spec an A6 (or 4 series, Z4 etc.) to the same level, the 8 is actually a bit cheaper.

Delivery due in Nov, although hopefully it will arrive a bit earlier.

I'll miss the S90 in a way, which was a bit of a comparative bargain (£280 a month with 15k miles per annum over 4 yrs) particularly considering the spec it came with, but very excited to get my first ever luxury vehicle...

[Avallon]

Originally Posted by SSBMW14

Did you test drive the 4 series? I did back to back test drives of the M440i and the 840i and although in theory the power of the M440i is higher, the 840i drove better (I even felt it was faster on a straight road), was far more comfortable and had more presence - I certainly got more looks from other drivers on the test drive of the 8 and have since in my actual 840i.

My 840i is in San Remo Green - and if you want to see picks head over to the green thread https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=30036845

IMHO the 8 is way better than the Audi’s you’re considering.

At the end of the day it is personal preference and in this case your preference. And as the previous poster says don’t go for the 8 if not sure.

Thanks again for your pictures, they helped me confirm my decision on San Remo / Cognac.

[SSBMW14]

Originally Posted by Avallon

Thanks again for your pictures, they helped me confirm my decision on San Remo / Cognac.

No problem. Congrats on the car. Great choice of colour/interior combo if I do say

I am sure you will love the car when you get it.

[Avallon]

Originally Posted by SSBMW14

No problem. Congrats on the car. Great choice of colour/interior combo if I do say

I am sure you will love the car when you get it.

I'm sure I will

[Beemer5to3]

Originally Posted by Avallon

Thanks everyone for your input.

I've successfully changed my order to an 840i GC in San Remo with Cognac interior and 894 alloys.

I would have added driving assistance if I could get it on its own.

£703 / $875 a month, 8k miles per annum over 4 years, no deposit.

Couple of hundred more than an A6 over the term, but surprisingly, once you spec an A6 (or 4 series, Z4 etc.) to the same level, the 8 is actually a bit cheaper.

Delivery due in Nov, although hopefully it will arrive a bit earlier.

I'll miss the S90 in a way, which was a bit of a comparative bargain (£280 a month with 15k miles per annum over 4 yrs) particularly considering the spec it came with, but very excited to get my first ever luxury vehicle...

Bargain that for no deposit - great colour combo choice too.