i was thinking about the 135i and...

E92_335 · 08-01-2007, 02:26 PM

...it is going to be FAST! I know everyone in this forum is going to talk something negative about this post I am making because that is how you guys are but it is going to have the same engine the 335 has and it is going to be a lot lighter! i dont want another bmw faster than my 335 for a couple more years

imagine that thing with a PROcede chip! haha

BMW335icDDS · 08-01-2007, 02:32 PM

Actually, to my disappointment it isn't a lot lighter. It is only 88 lbs. lighter. That won't get you much performance gain. That difference in weight is often what people in this country need to lose in weight. Funny how many people bitch about the car gaining a few pounds when they themselves should be going on a diet as well.

pittyinSC · 08-01-2007, 02:46 PM

Hell the Z4 M coupe is only 54 pounds lighter than the 335i

BMW F22 · 08-01-2007, 03:09 PM

yeah it wont be that much lighter but hey, 88 lbs is still 88 lbs. It's going to be a fun car nonetheless.

E92_335 · 08-01-2007, 03:43 PM

oh wow really? only 88 pounds?

i thought it was going to be a lot more but that is great news! now the 135i wont be as fast as mine! (esp because i'm getting a chip soon

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bavarian19 · 08-01-2007, 04:07 PM

It might be a little faster, but its also much more ugly and less practical...

BMW335icDDS · 08-01-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWE90

yeah it wont be that much lighter but hey, 88 lbs is still 88 lbs. It's going to be a fun car nonetheless.

Yea but its not going to be significantly cheaper than a 3 series, is smaller length wise than a Ford focus, and with that small size u'd expect it to be much lighter. 88 lbs is really nothing.

BMW335icDDS · 08-01-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BOB Nevada

40kilos dude thats 2 plates at the gym, its not small

what im saying is the car is much much smaller than a 3 and its 88 lbs lighter? thats kinda sad

TheAcAvenger · 08-01-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW335icDDS

what im saying is the car is much much smaller than a 3 and its 88 lbs lighter? thats kinda sad

I agree. It's hard to rationalize going to a smaller car if i'm not going to lose a lot of weight. It's a different argument if we're talking 7 vs. 5, because those are sedans, and space is the key. For me 5 vs. 3 isn't an argument because I was looking for a coupe. If I'm going to get a small car, I wouldnt buy anything over 3200lbs. Geesh, the last gen R32 was awd and was 3256lbs. VW did the same thing and messed up by making the new R32 such a pig. The Boxster weighs less than 2900 in a stick. EVOs and STIs are around 3200 pounds. The RX-8 which is a pretty spacious, comfortable car weighs 3000, but I'll give bmw the benefit of the doubt and blame it on the rotary. Perhaps the N54 is just that heavy that making the 1 as lightweight as other cars in its sizerange was impossible.

It looks like bmw made the 1-series for a size related niche instead of a performance related niche. It reminds me a lot of the A3.

NewhouseEnt · 08-01-2007, 08:51 PM

Try 134 lbs.

08’ 135i Specs

Length × Width × Height in: 171.7 × 68.8 × 55.4
Weight lb : 3438

Compared to 07’ 335i Coupe

Length × Width × Height in: 180.6 × 70.2 × 54.1
Weight lb : 3571

Compared to 07’ 335i Sedan

Length × Width × Height in: 178.2 X 71.5 X 55.9
Weight lb : 3616

tjtanker · 08-01-2007, 10:58 PM

i had the chance to rent a 118i in germany and im 6'1''..... not much leg room in the 1er front or back. i couldnt get in any seat of the car without banging my knee on something. i'll keep my e90 thankyou very much.

SunnyD · 08-01-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by umcool911ok

Hell the Z4 M coupe is only 54 pounds lighter than the 335i

The Z4 MC is 3230 lbs unladen. The 335i coupe is 3571 unladen. Straight from BMW's website.

BMW335icDDS · 08-01-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnyD

The Z4 MC is 3230 lbs unladen. The 335i coupe is 3571 unladen. Straight from BMW's website.

Yea but the hideousness of the Z4 makes it a heavy on your eyes.

SunnyD · 08-01-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW335icDDS

Yea but the hideousness of the Z4 makes it a heavy on your eyes.

Not as hideous as the roofline is on the 335 vert.

PS: FIGHT ON!

Craigito · 08-01-2007, 11:50 PM

Saw a bunch of 1 hatches in germany. It was quite teeney weeney looking. Plus, I could never get over that rear end...blah! Looks like something out of Korea.

NPDAN · 08-01-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bavarian19

It might be a little faster, but its also much more ugly and less practical...

yea, me no likey

BMW335icDDS · 08-02-2007, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SunnyD

Not as hideous as the roofline is on the 335 vert.

PS: FIGHT ON!

I just noticed in your sig you have a Z4. My bad, but regardless the Z4 is ugly. Ask 100 people which car is prettier, and you can bet your ass the 335 vert will win every time.

010101 · 08-02-2007, 12:34 AM

You guys can ague about weight, but you can't argue about the sweet monoblock multipiston brakes it will have... and remapped throttle response.. among other things. The 135i will be geared for driving enthusiasts much more the the 335i is.

pittyinSC · 08-02-2007, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyD

The Z4 MC is 3230 lbs unladen. The 335i coupe is 3571 unladen. Straight from BMW's website.

Maybe it was the M roadster then but still thats what it said in the magazine and yea M roadster I think

Excellence · 08-02-2007, 01:28 AM

blah blah blah, haters everywhere.

Z4 M is an awesome car...

Every BMW has it's own unique feature. Relax people.

FinInk · 08-02-2007, 03:50 AM

Hey I have a question concerning the 135i's size to it's engine space.

Do you think the engine space in the 1 will be smaller than the 3 series? I know the 3 series engine bay is already cramped and after market intercooler's and turbos and such are finding some difficulties to fit/get bigger. If the 1 has a smaller bay do you think this will differentiate the mods available for the two cars and possible handicap the 1 series engine aftermarket even more so than the 335?

010101 · 08-02-2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FinInk

Hey I have a question concerning the 135i's size to it's engine space.

Do you think the engine space in the 1 will be smaller than the 3 series? I know the 3 series engine bay is already cramped and after market intercooler's and turbos and such are finding some difficulties to fit/get bigger. If the 1 has a smaller bay do you think this will differentiate the mods available for the two cars and possible handicap the 1 series engine aftermarket even more so than the 335?

Probably not that much since the performance world will be concentrating on the 135i not the 335i. If you want performance buying a 335i and modding it really makes no sense since no matter what you do to it it will be slower and won't handle as good as a similarly equipped 135i. I'm sure a 535i has an even bigger bay than the 335i, but no one will build exclusive mods for it either.

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E92_335 Colonel 156 Rep 2,863 Posts Drives: G20 330i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (7)	oh wow really? only 88 pounds? i thought it was going to be a lot more but that is great news! now the 135i wont be as fast as mine! (esp because i'm getting a chip soon ) __________________
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NewhouseEnt Second Lieutenant 48 Rep 228 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: none iTrader: (0)	Uhhhh, WHAT? No, not 88 pounds Try 134 lbs. 08’ 135i Specs Length × Width × Height in: 171.7 × 68.8 × 55.4 Weight lb : 3438 Compared to 07’ 335i Coupe Length × Width × Height in: 180.6 × 70.2 × 54.1 Weight lb : 3571 Compared to 07’ 335i Sedan Length × Width × Height in: 178.2 X 71.5 X 55.9 Weight lb : 3616
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