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      03-13-2018, 08:39 AM   #111
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Yes it's Carbon Core. The fenders, door skins, and rear lid are composite construction as well.
It's the Carbon Core. Does wonders for the M850i.
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It's the Carbon Core. Does wonders for the M850i.
Do you have any early weight estimates?
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Do you have any early weight estimates?
All data has been asked not be revealed until June. But there is a significance between its respective competitors. They want to lead with strong momentum on the introduction of The 8.

As well as The 8. The 7 and the X7.
The upcoming X5 and X6 now fall under marketing as a Bayern Motoren Werke product. Inevitable. As the new X5 is astounding in every way.

There are several new models coming developed with the Carbon Core from The 7.
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Do you have any early weight estimates?
All data has been asked not be revealed until June. But there is a significance between its respective competitors. They want to lead with strong momentum on the introduction of The 8.

As well as The 8. The 7 and the X7.
The upcoming X5 and X6 now fall under marketing as a Bayern Motoren Werke product. Inevitable. As the new X5 is astounding in every way.

There are several new models coming developed with the Carbon Core from The 7.
Will there be more carbon in the actual chassis in the 8 than than the 7 ? Because the amount in it isn't that impressive as a percent of the chassis , it's essentially just the pillars . A more accurate term would be "steel core" percentage wise .
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All data has been asked not be revealed until June. But there is a significance between its respective competitors. They want to lead with strong momentum on the introduction of The 8.

As well as The 8. The 7 and the X7.
The upcoming X5 and X6 now fall under marketing as a Bayern Motoren Werke product. Inevitable. As the new X5 is astounding in every way.

There are several new models coming developed with the Carbon Core from The 7.
Ok totally fair. I was going to get a X5 50i but now I may have to wait for the upcoming version. Are you able to tell me if the car is a lighter competitor to the S class, etc or more of a competitor to the AMG GT, etc? I'm really hoping for the later!!!
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I'm pretty sure the X5/X6 50i will turn into M50i in order to align with the already existing X5/X6 M50d and the 550i having become M550i.
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I'm pretty sure the X5/X6 50i will turn into M50i in order to align with the already existing X5/X6 M50d and the 550i having become M550i.
Yes M Performance will be the flagship of model lines from the 3er to The 8. These model lines also include the equivalent X model.
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Yes M Performance will be the flagship of model lines from the 3er to The 8. These model lines also include the equivalent X model.
When is the quickly growing M Performance range going to be showcased on the official BMW M website alongside the hardcore M models?! It's not very smart to avoid marketing them as special breed BMWs and to only keep them on the standard BMW site as if they were only slightly warmed up versions of standard models... The M brand is already watered down anyway with a gazillion M Sport 1 Series and 2 Series minivans roaming the streets, so BMW might as well milk the M Performance brand as much as possible

Mercedes went as far as to give their 'AMG light' models (= akin to Audi S and BMW M Performance) the same nomenclature as the actual hardcore AMG models, after briefly attempting to market them as AMG Sport (e.g. C450 AMG Sport became C43) and probably realizing it was more confusing than anything and the cars weren't perceived as being more special than just regular models with AMG body kit (= equivalent to Audi S-Line and BMW M Sport trim). Yet this doesn't seem to have watered down the image of the hardcore AMG models (e.g. C63) the slightest bit.

Edit: sorry, hadn't realized the M Performance models were already being shown on the M website

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Will there be more carbon in the actual chassis in the 8 than than the 7 ? Because the amount in it isn't that impressive as a percent of the chassis , it's essentially just the pillars . A more accurate term would be "steel core" percentage wise .
The Carbon Core is strategically placed at the main load bearing points of a body-in-white. Pillars,chassis,transmission tunnel,roof structure. Thiis in place of conventional steel in which Carbon offers further exceptional structural rigidity at the right points where structural strength is essential but with less weight than usual steel.

There is also the choice of a Carbon roof which offer further innovation through lightweight technology.
The 8 also makes use of composite materials on its outer skin as well as hard pressed steel and aluminium under its skin.
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When is the quickly growing M Performance range going to be showcased on the official BMW M website alongside the hardcore M models?! It's not very smart to avoid marketing them as special breed BMWs and to only keep them on the standard BMW site as if they were only slightly warmed up versions of standard models... The M brand is already watered down anyway with a gazillion M Sport 1 Series and 2 Series minivans roaming the streets, so BMW might as well milk the M Performance brand as much as possible

Mercedes went as far as to give their 'AMG light' models (= akin to Audi S and BMW M Performance) the same nomenclature as the actual hardcore AMG models, after briefly attempting to market them as AMG Sport (e.g. C450 AMG Sport became C43) and probably realizing it was more confusing than anything and the cars weren't perceived as being more special than just regular models with AMG body kit (= equivalent to Audi S-Line and BMW M Sport trim). Yet this doesn't seem to have watered down the image of the hardcore AMG models (e.g. C63) the slightest bit.
In time for the arrival of The 8. There will be a complete overhaul of the website to provide separation from the high-end luxury models from the core models.

BMW M. Has come Along way from its more exclusive beginnings.
But who is responsible for this change?....You are!
The customer has changed the demographic. That is why there are far more options. The Performance SUV? Driven by the customer, an Aftermarket range with no Aftermarket penalty to the warranty? Again pushed by the customer.

M Performance was started in regards to the customer being affected by taxitive legislations on high performance cars especially in the EU. Which is why the first M Performance cars were mainly diesels.
Don't forget the subjects BMW M thought were Taboo such as Diesel and All wheel drive.

Look at BMW M. As an industry within an industry. M-Sport,M Performance,M Performance accessories,BMW M. And the Motorsports division. Again driven by the customer to provide for every necessity.

Mercedes are actually following the strategic ideas of M Performance. If we take for example with the forthcoming 3er. For M Performance we are going to see the M340i and M340d below the next M3.

Think of C43 AMG and M340i as direct competitors and the M3 in competition with the C63 AMG. It's a sub-brand but AMG have not identified it as a sub-brand. Audi might be considered different because although they have an S4 you can only have the RS4 as the Avant only so there is some consistency there.

M Performance is the stepping stone to BMW M. It provides a choice depending on the market. It is no wonder why this sub-brand is successful.

It has identified a market and demographic to provide high performance as well as in a second option to tailor for the needs of that particular market or customer?

Whether it is financially motivated,particular market legislation and tax, or indeed they need that particular choice M Performance has a performance orientated model for you.
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The Carbon Core is strategically placed at the main load bearing points of a body-in-white. Pillars,chassis,transmission tunnel,roof structure. Thiis in place of conventional steel in which Carbon offers further exceptional structural rigidity at the right points where structural strength is essential but with less weight than usual steel.

There is also the choice of a Carbon roof which offer further innovation through lightweight technology.
The 8 also makes use of composite materials on its outer skin as well as hard pressed steel and aluminium under its skin.
Great info. Should we expect a full reveal by June for the M8 coupe then?
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Great info. Should we expect a full reveal by June for the M8 coupe then?
June is the reveal schedule for the regular 8 Series Coupé.
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Great info. Should we expect a full reveal by June for the M8 coupe then?
M8 Coupe will be launched this time next year.
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June is the reveal schedule for the regular 8 Series Coupé.
Thanks. I’m definitely interested to see what the base version weighs in at.
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I see no adjustable thigh support :-/
I love the things people zero in on with initial photos like this. had me LOLing, man!
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What's the competitive segment this car is going after? It's main competition?
Mercedes SL / S coupe, Aston (?).


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BMW have tapped into this by mirroring typical BMW dynamics and steering communication within the new UKL cars.
You mean massive body roll, a steering system that is not connected to the front wheels, and the engine note played through the speaker system?!?!?!?!
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