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      06-13-2019, 12:34 PM   #67
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The TTS is a super car. It's built in comparable numbers as a super/exotic, same price range well equipped, and performance is on par or better than most exotics in its price range (570s, 488, huracan, etc). These are the cars the turbo was built to compete with. Not an M8 or an S63.

I agree with your perspective though on why weight and size is an issue here.
Agreed that the 911Turbo/s is comparable if not better than many hypercars. but it is never labeled as an exotic. Porsche does not command the premium a Ferrari or McLaren does. It is much closer in price to a BMW flagship (M8) than the exotics.

Nomenclature aside, my issue is why does BMW not build true sports cars, instead of build GTs. They have been going after AMG for a decade plus, this leads to higher growth in the medium term, but loses enthusiasts and street cred, which hurts the brand longer term. And that long term has arrived.
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The TTS is a super car. It's built in comparable numbers as a super/exotic, same price range well equipped, and performance is on par or better than most exotics in its price range (570s, 488, huracan, etc). These are the cars the turbo was built to compete with. Not an M8 or an S63.

I agree with your perspective though on why weight and size is an issue here.
Agreed that the 911Turbo/s is comparable if not better than many hypercars. but it is never labeled as an exotic. Porsche does not command the premium a Ferrari or McLaren does. It is much closer in price to a BMW flagship (M8) than the exotics.

Nomenclature aside, my issue is why does BMW not build true sports cars, instead of build GTs. They have been going after AMG for a decade plus, this leads to higher growth in the medium term, but loses enthusiasts and street cred, which hurts the brand longer term. And that long term has arrived.
That's true. I see your point. I also agree that BMW should build a true 911 competitor instead of their current lineup. Should have done it with the Z lineup.
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