My Monster has arrived - Some questions

Dex85 · 08-24-2020, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

While black color is not one of my favorites, your car looks stunning. Congratulations!

Thanks!

So anyone got any more information regarding a rev limiter of 5k rpm and no burbles / pops and crackles ? Is this before the break in service or is there something wrong that I should get checked?

LSM · 08-24-2020, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex85

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Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

While black color is not one of my favorites, your car looks stunning. Congratulations!

Thanks!

So anyone got any more information regarding a rev limiter of 5k rpm and no burbles / pops and crackles ? Is this before the break in service or is there something wrong that I should get checked?

None of the M cars I have ever owned had a rev limiter

Dex85 · 08-25-2020, 08:38 AM

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None of the M cars I have ever owned had a rev limiter

This has me worried. Are you all able to rev the engine over 5k rpm when standstill ?

LSM · 08-25-2020, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex85

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Originally Posted by LSM

None of the M cars I have ever owned had a rev limiter

This has me worried. Are you all able to rev the engine over 5k rpm when standstill ?

Yes I could when I had my 2019 M5. I sold it but yea no rev limiter

limeypride · 08-25-2020, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex85

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Originally Posted by LSM

None of the M cars I have ever owned had a rev limiter

This has me worried. Are you all able to rev the engine over 5k rpm when standstill ?

Wait, when did at a 'standstill' come into this? That's a different scenario. I'll check.

Dex85 · 08-25-2020, 08:20 PM

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Wait, when did at a 'standstill' come into this? That's a different scenario. I'll check.

Please check and let me know. I've seen Zedsly on YouTube rev it between 6 and 7 k on standstill and I'm trying to figure out if he unlocked that in a tune or if it's supposed to be able to do that from the get go.

limeypride · 08-25-2020, 09:01 PM

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Please check and let me know. I've seen Zedsly on YouTube rev it between 6 and 7 k on standstill and I'm trying to figure out if he unlocked that in a tune or if it's supposed to be able to do that from the get go.

Understood.

But why do you care about an RPM limiter of 5K in neutral/park?

Dex85 · 08-25-2020, 11:56 PM

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Understood.

But why do you care about an RPM limiter of 5K in neutral/park?

I generally don't like forced limiters, and I've seen that the OPF versions like his seem to only burble / pop when revd between 6 and 7 in sport plus... Again I don't like limiters when it comes to exhaust either. Being a new car, I also would like to know that everything is in order and not that mine is limited while others aren't.

m3m4tho · 08-26-2020, 04:53 AM

I have a 2020 M5 and there is a 5k rev limiter when in park.

Dex85 · 08-26-2020, 07:50 AM

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I have a 2020 M5 and there is a 5k rev limiter when in park.

So this is a 2020 thing or has the M cars always been like that ? I'm guessing one would need to tune it to unlock / remove the 5k limiter when parked then... ? Hmm..

Dex85 · 08-27-2020, 11:50 AM

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I have a 2020 M5 and there is a 5k rev limiter when in park.

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Yes I could when I had my 2019 M5. I sold it but yea no rev limiter

So they added a revlimiter in park to the 2020 M cars?!?

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Wait, when did at a 'standstill' come into this? That's a different scenario. I'll check.

@Limeypride did you find time to check ?

limeypride · 08-27-2020, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex85

So they added a rev limiter in park to the 2020 M cars?!?

@Limeypride did you find time to check ?

Oops, I forgot--remedied, see below:

I have some good news, there's no 5K rev limiter in park!

I also some have some bad news: there's a 4.8K rev limiter in both neutral and park.

There's no rev limiter (other than running into the red line) when in drive.

Dex85 · 08-27-2020, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by limeypride

Oops, I forgot--remedied, see below:

I have some good news, there's no 5K rev limiter in park!

I also some have some bad news: there's a 4.8K rev limiter in both neutral and park.

There's no rev limiter (other than running into the red line) when in drive.

Thanks for checking! Yeah so seems like the 2020 M cars has this then. Gotta check how to remove it etc.

Resjudicata · 08-28-2020, 09:47 AM

It's definitely not on any m8 competition or m850 in the 2019 years. It's probably a 2020 or software thing.

Yet another reason to NOT upgrade any software in any BMW.

TheStanman · 08-28-2020, 10:32 AM

I believe the rev-limiter in Park is part of EU regulations as well. I think it might be sound regulations?

It's not just BMW. It's showing up on Audi and Porsche at a minimum as well.

Belugs · 08-28-2020, 04:36 PM

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I believe the rev-limiter in Park is part of EU regulations as well. I think it might be sound regulations?

It's not just BMW. It's showing up on Audi and Porsche at a minimum as well.

Yea that's exactly what I just asked in another forum. Has to be Europe only due to the new regulations to keep the exhaust noise under 68dB. It shouldn't apply to US markets unless US environmental regulators have followed suit.

limeypride · 08-28-2020, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheStanman

I believe the rev-limiter in Park is part of EU regulations as well. I think it might be sound regulations?

It's not just BMW. It's showing up on Audi and Porsche at a minimum as well.

Yea that's exactly what I just asked in another forum. Has to be Europe only due to the new regulations to keep the exhaust noise under 68dB. It shouldn't apply to US markets unless US environmental regulators have followed suit.

Perhaps they knew I'm British.

Dex85 · 08-28-2020, 06:07 PM

Omg these regulations are killing the industry. I will look into how to remove that crap....

brad850csi · 08-28-2020, 06:30 PM

My M6 only goes to about 4k in neutral when stationary. But as soon you're moving it'll bounce off the limiter quite happily

SatinblkF90 · 07-13-2023, 01:58 AM

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At this point, I'd suggest you consider a standard metallic color and then spend the saved money on a PPF matte wrap. Matte wrapping Donington results in something very close to frozen dark silver.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...19&postcount=1

As for the why: I intended to wrap it in PPF week one--COVID ended any chances of that. After 2 months, the front has been sprayed by WA stones and it cannot be repaired. No shop--all specialists--would even take the job on. I read up on the process and understand why now. One autosalon suggested I have some paint made up, he'll use it to cover the chips as best he can, buff it (which eliminates the matte effect and introduces sheen) and then put a matte wrap PPF on top of the entire front end... it took a little while but we found a matte wrap that matched the natural matte of the paint. This is done now and the end result is meh--better than it was but nowhere close to gone.

I had the front end, wing mirrors and side skirts wrapped since that was where the stone chips were occurring.

Wrapping the entire car is roughly $7,000. The custom paint is $5,000. Then you'll need to add transparent PPF to protect it so plus another $7,000.

No more factory matte for me.

Which brand PPF did you find matches the OEM bmw frozen paint finish? From what I’ve seen so far it seems Xpel stealth is pretty spot on with that.

Bulent Ali · 07-13-2023, 05:13 AM

Congratulations 🎊. Wonderful car. The rev limit will raise after the 1500 mile break in period by bmw . This is to prevent premature engine wear . You should baby it until then .
I'm in the UK and all pops and crackles were removed in order to meet eu regulations. Apart from the opf, software has been updated too . The USA market does not suffer from this . I personally think ( my opinion ) the crackles and pops do not suit the car . 🤔 I, along with my brother have a coupe and Gran coupe order . I don't miss the pops . I live in a built up area and many a times cars with pops pass by and are really pissing me off. I don't want others to think of me that way too.

Bulent Ali · 07-13-2023, 05:19 AM

There are soft limiters too in place to stop people revving their cars at standstill. This is normal if in N . Its called a soft limiter . But , once in gear and driving , you should be able to rev it only after 1500 mile break in period once the car has come back from bmw .
Do NOT pass the 1500 mile . If anything take it to bmw just before . You may void your warranty.

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m3m4tho New Member 33 Rep 29 Posts Drives: F90 M5, G30 540i Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I have a 2020 M5 and there is a 5k rev limiter when in park.
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Resjudicata Colonel 1603 Rep 2,937 Posts Drives: M850i convertible Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Dulles Virginia iTrader: (0)	It's definitely not on any m8 competition or m850 in the 2019 years. It's probably a 2020 or software thing. Yet another reason to NOT upgrade any software in any BMW.
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TheStanman Private First Class 318 Rep 183 Posts Drives: 992 C2S Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	I believe the rev-limiter in Park is part of EU regulations as well. I think it might be sound regulations? It's not just BMW. It's showing up on Audi and Porsche at a minimum as well.
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brad850csi Colonel 1316 Rep 2,349 Posts Drives: 16 F13 M6 Comp Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (0)	My M6 only goes to about 4k in neutral when stationary. But as soon you're moving it'll bounce off the limiter quite happily __________________ SCOTT26 "So as an admirer of the M5 and a potential customer of an M5 Touring. I would run naked around the streets of Garching if they were to offer one."
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Bulent Ali Second Lieutenant 161 Rep 200 Posts Drives: M8 competition coupe Join Date: May 2019 Location: Cyprus iTrader: (0)	Congratulations 🎊. Wonderful car. The rev limit will raise after the 1500 mile break in period by bmw . This is to prevent premature engine wear . You should baby it until then . I'm in the UK and all pops and crackles were removed in order to meet eu regulations. Apart from the opf, software has been updated too . The USA market does not suffer from this . I personally think ( my opinion ) the crackles and pops do not suit the car . 🤔 I, along with my brother have a coupe and Gran coupe order . I don't miss the pops . I live in a built up area and many a times cars with pops pass by and are really pissing me off. I don't want others to think of me that way too.
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Bulent Ali Second Lieutenant 161 Rep 200 Posts Drives: M8 competition coupe Join Date: May 2019 Location: Cyprus iTrader: (0)	There are soft limiters too in place to stop people revving their cars at standstill. This is normal if in N . Its called a soft limiter . But , once in gear and driving , you should be able to rev it only after 1500 mile break in period once the car has come back from bmw . Do NOT pass the 1500 mile . If anything take it to bmw just before . You may void your warranty.
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