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      02-28-2021, 11:42 AM   #1
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Found myself on an empty 6 lane highway last night in a fairly unfamiliar area, but couldn't resist doing a quick pull right before I was about to get off an exit and proceed through a series of interchanges. I had already started to let off and noted some headlights approaching fairly quickly. I actually thought it was someone that just got on and was looking to play at first since there were literally no cars around prior, but it was 3AM so while I certainly wasn't drinking, I didn't want to further provoke someone that may have been. By the time I was rounding the third interchange and coming to a red light before the final one, they caught up enough for me to realize who they were. The lights went on right after the light turned green and I immediately pulled over and shutoff the car.

A quick information exchange and short field sobriety test and I was on my way, it was about a 7 minute delay in total. They simply thanked me for stopping while stating they wouldn't have a chance otherwise, and asked that I play safe. Definitely thankful for the leniency, they admitted they had no clue how fast I was going, but they could have made it a much longer night for me.

This was actually the first time I have been pulled over in about 15 years. Typically if I'm pushing at all on public roads, its on a mountain road or similar situation with nobody around, but most likely on a road I'm very familiar and know all the spots to watch out for. I've never really looked into radar detectors or laser jammers seriously, and just had hoped for situations like these. It's probably not a good thing that it played out how I imagined. How has everyone else's experiences been, at least in similar situations where they were being somewhat responsible and respectful about it?
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Glad it all worked out. It's been at least 10-years since the last time I was pulled over for speeding and I too was respectful and explained the situation as to why I was driving like a bat out of hell on I-10 between Phoenix and Tucson, i.e., I had received a call from the hospital in Tucson that my Dad had taken a turn for the worse. I even showed the highway patrol officer the call log on my cell with the inbound call from TMC as well as the call to my Mom after telling her that I'd get there ASAP as it was about 9pm at that time and with her Glaucoma and overall vision issues she could not drive at night from my parents home in Sierra Vista (about 40 miles from TMC).

At the end of the day he wrote me up for 85 MPH (10 over the posted limit) and let me go with only one request, i.e., do not go over 85 for the rest of my journey. That saved me from an easy 95+ MPH ticket that would have designated it as criminal speeding and I would have been arrested onsite with no way to get to the hospital that evening. It always pays to be respectful.
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Glad this turned out ok for you!

I think having these cars we should all have some kind of countermeasure like a radar detector. It most likely would have warned you at some point that the car closing on you was an LEO.

I use one to at a minimum keep me aware of my surroundings and the current radar models available now really are great at warning you. I would just suggest hopping over to the radar forum to get a good idea of what’s available. I’m using Unidens R3 but I believe they have a R7 now. There are other options as well but bottom line, these cars fuckn fly and some countermeasures should be used for some peace of mind.
Now I’ll stop blathering!
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Found myself on an empty 6 lane highway last night in a fairly unfamiliar area, but couldn't resist doing a quick pull right before I was about to get off an exit and proceed through a series of interchanges. I had already started to let off and noted some headlights approaching fairly quickly. I actually thought it was someone that just got on and was looking to play at first since there were literally no cars around prior, but it was 3AM so while I certainly wasn't drinking, I didn't want to further provoke someone that may have been. By the time I was rounding the third interchange and coming to a red light before the final one, they caught up enough for me to realize who they were. The lights went on right after the light turned green and I immediately pulled over and shutoff the car.

A quick information exchange and short field sobriety test and I was on my way, it was about a 7 minute delay in total. They simply thanked me for stopping while stating they wouldn't have a chance otherwise, and asked that I play safe. Definitely thankful for the leniency, they admitted they had no clue how fast I was going, but they could have made it a much longer night for me.

This was actually the first time I have been pulled over in about 15 years. Typically if I'm pushing at all on public roads, its on a mountain road or similar situation with nobody around, but most likely on a road I'm very familiar and know all the spots to watch out for. I've never really looked into radar detectors or laser jammers seriously, and just had hoped for situations like these. It's probably not a good thing that it played out how I imagined. How has everyone else's experiences been, at least in similar situations where they were being somewhat responsible and respectful about it?
Something similar happened to me two years back in my brothers 2018 m3 is was cleaning corners at 100-120 mph on a semi busy highway .

Officer pulled me over " WTF are you doing give me your got damn license"

I did and said " I apologize officer long stress-full work day I have a clean driving record here's my insurance kindly check my driving record no points no dui nothing "

He came back " drive safely and track this beast but not on public roads "

I said sorry I won't and left .

It was a miracle !!!!!

Same for you as well. Glad things worked out.
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Glad this turned out ok for you!

I think having these cars we should all have some kind of countermeasure like a radar detector. It most likely would have warned you at some point that the car closing on you was an LEO.

I use one to at a minimum keep me aware of my surroundings and the current radar models available now really are great at warning you. I would just suggest hopping over to the radar forum to get a good idea of what’s available. I’m using Unidens R3 but I believe they have a R7 now. There are other options as well but bottom line, these cars fuckn fly and some countermeasures should be used for some peace of mind.
Now I’ll stop blathering!
Absolutely agree and rdforum.org is a treasure trove of information. However, radar may not save you depending on your locale and use of Laser detection. My example from 10+ years past had a V1 in action but the highway patrol officer was not shooting radar but rather approximated my speed based on what it took to catch up.

Wind the clock forward with the M850i and I have all countermeasures deployed, e.g., a V1 Gen2 tied to JBV1 which pulls in Waze as well as PAWS alerts which are golden when I'm in CA where speed is measured by aircraft vs here in AZ. That said I could go all in on an ALP laser jammer system for the car but in reality considering the amount of Laser in use here in the Phoenix Metropolitan area there is little value from a ROI perspective.
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Glad this turned out ok for you!

I think having these cars we should all have some kind of countermeasure like a radar detector. It most likely would have warned you at some point that the car closing on you was an LEO.

I use one to at a minimum keep me aware of my surroundings and the current radar models available now really are great at warning you. I would just suggest hopping over to the radar forum to get a good idea of what's available. I'm using Unidens R3 but I believe they have a R7 now. There are other options as well but bottom line, these cars fuckn fly and some countermeasures should be used for some peace of mind.
Now I'll stop blathering!
Absolutely agree and rdforum.org is a treasure trove of information. However, radar may not save you depending on your locale and use of Laser detection. My example from 10+ years past had a V1 in action but the highway patrol officer was not shooting radar but rather approximated my speed based on what it took to catch up.

Wind the clock forward with the M850i and I have all countermeasures deployed, e.g., a V1 Gen2 tied to JBV1 which pulls in Waze as well as PAWS alerts which are golden when I'm in CA where speed is measured by aircraft vs here in AZ. That said I could go all in on an ALP laser jammer system for the car but in reality considering the amount of Laser in use here in the Phoenix Metropolitan area there is little value from a ROI perspective.
It's definitely location dependent. In DC it's almost all lidar in pre-COVID era. We have some aircraft and some visual estimates but it's mostly lidar. However with COVID and reduced staffing, most local police departments have switched to moving and stationary radar.

The first time I was pulled over, I am was 18 and clocked 90 mph in a 55 mph zone. My parents hired a lawyer and he got it reduced to a non-moving no-point violation with a $100 fine. Instead of jail, loss of license, insurance, points, and thousands in penalties.
That is actually what made me want to become a Virginia speeding/traffic/DWI attorney. And while I've only been pulled over a handful of times, almost all of them resulted in warnings. Mainly due to being polite and respectful.
And doing what the OP did exactly right. I pull over immediately, shut off the car, and then hand over my license and Registration. I don't play games or argue or try to talk my way out. I just hand it over and if anything say "sorry".

Let the lawyers do the arguing in court; don't fight cops on the side of the road.
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Glad this turned out ok for you!

I think having these cars we should all have some kind of countermeasure like a radar detector. It most likely would have warned you at some point that the car closing on you was an LEO.

I use one to at a minimum keep me aware of my surroundings and the current radar models available now really are great at warning you. I would just suggest hopping over to the radar forum to get a good idea of what’s available. I’m using Unidens R3 but I believe they have a R7 now. There are other options as well but bottom line, these cars fuckn fly and some countermeasures should be used for some peace of mind.
Now I’ll stop blathering!
They should come with either Escort 360Ci max installed or the ALP installed. However, with many options people might say there are others besides these big 2 and want a different system installed. Also it's very time consuming and costly. I got quotes from $10k-$20k and a couple days to a full week installed.

Compared to a $500 windshield unit that can be moved easily between multiple vehicles. I ended up getting the $800 escort redline because it's stealth and I can add the wireless lasers without much problems wireless.

But it would add so much time and cost to manufacture that it's never going to be cost effective. However local dealerships should offer free install a.
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I previously installed laser on a few M5s and an M6 that I've had but laser isn't used much in my area so I dropped installing it (did the installs myself). These things are all helpful but you can't rely 100% on them. I look at it if I wish to drive spirited down a stretch of road I would like an additional way of detecting something ahead. Waze users (including me) also appreciate the warnings as well. A sort of odds improvement play I suppose.

There are plenty of windshield mounts that work well and can be placed somewhere in the cabin in a somewhat non intrusive way too. Hardwired of course.
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I previously installed laser on a few M5s and an M6 that I've had but laser isn't used much in my area so I dropped installing it (did the installs myself). These things are all helpful but you can't rely 100% on them. I look at it if I wish to drive spirited down a stretch of road I would like an additional way of detecting something ahead. Waze users (including me) also appreciate the warnings as well. A sort of odds improvement play I suppose.

There are plenty of windshield mounts that work well and can be placed somewhere in the cabin in a somewhat non intrusive way too. Hardwired of course.
On my M850 vert I have a radenso wired unit linked with ALP jammers. This is 10 years going with radar and laser protection and I can't live without it. If anyone has any questions regarding radar and laser I'm pretty well versed DM me.
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I previously installed laser on a few M5s and an M6 that I've had but laser isn't used much in my area so I dropped installing it (did the installs myself). These things are all helpful but you can't rely 100% on them. I look at it if I wish to drive spirited down a stretch of road I would like an additional way of detecting something ahead. Waze users (including me) also appreciate the warnings as well. A sort of odds improvement play I suppose.

There are plenty of windshield mounts that work well and can be placed somewhere in the cabin in a somewhat non intrusive way too. Hardwired of course.
On my M850 vert I have a radenso wired unit linked with ALP jammers. This is 10 years going with radar and laser protection and I can't live without it. If anyone has any questions regarding radar and laser I'm pretty well versed DM me.
1 question, do you know an installer in the DC metro area.
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I previously installed laser on a few M5s and an M6 that I've had but laser isn't used much in my area so I dropped installing it (did the installs myself). These things are all helpful but you can't rely 100% on them. I look at it if I wish to drive spirited down a stretch of road I would like an additional way of detecting something ahead. Waze users (including me) also appreciate the warnings as well. A sort of odds improvement play I suppose.

There are plenty of windshield mounts that work well and can be placed somewhere in the cabin in a somewhat non intrusive way too. Hardwired of course.
On my M850 vert I have a radenso wired unit linked with ALP jammers. This is 10 years going with radar and laser protection and I can't live without it. If anyone has any questions regarding radar and laser I'm pretty well versed DM me.
1 question, do you know an installer in the DC metro area.
No I don't but I know Virginia has some of the toughest enforcement and speeding laws inn the country. If I was you I would go on rdforum, they can point you in the right direction.
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Hah, the Mrs. was already not happy that I wasn't "scared straight" by the trooper, or even given a stern warning by any means. After sifting through advice on which countermeasures I should deploy, I'm sure she'll be ecstatic when my escort comes in on Friday.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll just have to seek out some potential mounting locations to make sure it doesn't add fuel to the fire if it's spotted during a potential future stop.

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The detectors are not illegal in most states (maybe they are in Virginia and Connecticut? Not sure which or both). Anti Laser, ah, yeah they are illegal.
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