[ArcticWhite]

I've got a C7Z06 and an interesting thing happens with those cars. Anyone seriously doing track time actually sells the carbon ceramic brakes and goes to race spec iron brakes. This is because carbon ceramics do actually wear out relatively fast when used in race situations and the running costs are not in line with the benefits. So, with those cars, affordable carbon ceramic brake take-offs with little mileage were actually easy to find ($5-6K when I believe dealer pricing is similar to the BMW ceramics).

Doubt that same thing happens with the M8's.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by ArcticWhite

I've got a C7Z06 and an interesting thing happens with those cars. Anyone seriously doing track time actually sells the carbon ceramic brakes and goes to race spec iron brakes. This is because carbon ceramics do actually wear out relatively fast when used in race situations and the running costs are not in line with the benefits. So, with those cars, affordable carbon ceramic brake take-offs with little mileage were actually easy to find ($5-6K when I believe dealer pricing is similar to the BMW ceramics).

Doubt that same thing happens with the M8's.

This was my hope too but I also agree don't think it will be something M8 owners actually do.

[Wolfman64]

Couple posts here discussing affordable CCB take-offs. Please buy with care...

Take-offs usually run around $8k a set and the problem is that they are often beat-up.
Coming from accident cars a lot of shops don't understand how delicate CCB rotors are.

They easily chip (people need to be careful even swapping wheels without hitting the rotors) or have scratches/gouges which in some cases can destroy the rotors if some CCB material comes off and logs itself into the pad.

MB uses the same set of CCB's on all their models apart form the AMG GT Pro/BS. That makes it easier to search for take-offs. MB uses Brembos like BMW.
I assume that this is similar to BMW so M5 brake kits should bolt on to M8's, perhaps apart from some brackets/bolts, etc.

This may make the search easier. But I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't look pristine on high-res images...

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

Couple posts here discussing affordable CCB take-offs. Please buy with care...

Take-offs usually run around $8k a set and the problem is that they are often beat-up.
Coming from accident cars a lot of shops don't understand how delicate CCB rotors are.

They easily chip (people need to be careful even swapping wheels without hitting the rotors) or have scratches/gouges which in some cases can destroy the rotors if some CCB material comes off and logs itself into the pad.

MB uses the same set of CCB's on all their models apart form the AMG GT Pro/BS. That makes it easier to search for take-offs. MB uses Brembos like BMW.
I assume that this is similar to BMW so M5 brake kits should bolt on to M8's, perhaps apart from some brackets/bolts, etc.

This may make the search easier. But I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't look pristine on high-res images...

I couldn't agree more, one step I also take is when buying used things I buy with AMEX. If seller won't refund AMEX will.

Also off topic but most people should know if you use a CC (many many do this) to buy a cell phone you get insurance as well. I've seen 1 to 3 years coverage just for buying with the CC.

[ArcticWhite]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

Couple posts here discussing affordable CCB take-offs. Please buy with care...

Take-offs usually run around $8k a set and the problem is that they are often beat-up.
Coming from accident cars a lot of shops don't understand how delicate CCB rotors are.

They easily chip (people need to be careful even swapping wheels without hitting the rotors) or have scratches/gouges which in some cases can destroy the rotors if some CCB material comes off and logs itself into the pad.

MB uses the same set of CCB's on all their models apart form the AMG GT Pro/BS. That makes it easier to search for take-offs. MB uses Brembos like BMW.
I assume that this is similar to BMW so M5 brake kits should bolt on to M8's, perhaps apart from some brackets/bolts, etc.

This may make the search easier. But I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't look pristine on high-res images...

And make sure they have pictures of both their stamped weights and actual weights on a scale.

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by ArcticWhite

And make sure they have pictures of both their stamped weights and actual weights on a scale.

Absolutely! Forgot to mention that CCB's do not wear like steels and there are two ways to check how worn they are.

1. Circular wear marks (good indicator)
2. Weight (more accurate)

But the most likely purchase will be a F90 take-off and wear will not really come into play...

[M3CDan]

Originally Posted by M8Bimmer

If you get a quote please let us know what it is. Quite curious to see how much afterward.

So finally heard back from dealer, here is what he said:

Hello Mr. Deans. I did not forget about the brake estimate. I got confirmation that BMW will not release any carbon ceramic parts for your vehicle. They are only released by VIN numbers that already have them due to the computer systems with the brakes. Sorry I would have loved to do them for you. Unfortunately it is not possible. Best Regards

[Tenac]

Bummer

[MELLOWYELLOW06]

You can always sell your originals for good amount of money to capture some of the cost.

[M8Bimmer]

BMW seems rather controlling of cars they don't own anymore after they are sold.
I've seen this with other things too. They seem to act as if they still own the car.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by M8Bimmer

BMW seems rather controlling of cars they don't own anymore after they are sold.
I've seen this with other things too. They seem to act as if they still own the car.

Just wait till all manufactures start following Tesla where everything is installed you have to pay monthly to use it.

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by M8CGCDan

So finally heard back from dealer, here is what he said:

Hello Mr. Deans. I did not forget about the brake estimate. I got confirmation that BMW will not release any carbon ceramic parts for your vehicle. They are only released by VIN numbers that already have them due to the computer systems with the brakes. Sorry I would have loved to do them for you. Unfortunately it is not possible. Best Regards

Sorry to hear but that is really dumb response. People swap steels and CCB's for different reasons and no other car I am aware of requires rotor-specific programming.

If it's a pricing exercise, here's a start. Non discounted list prices...

Rotor Front Rt 34-11-7-991-106 $4415.73
Rotor Front Lt 34-11-7-991-105 $4415.73
Rotor Rear Rt 34-21-7-991-108 $4519.56
Rotor Rear Rt 34-21-7-991-107 $4519.56

CCB Calipers Front, Rear Lt, Rt, expect about $1300 to $1500 a pop. There a number of parts than make up the complete calipers sets
Worth double checking the steel/CCB rotor dimensions to see if the stock calipers will work.
Easy to respray/decal...

Pads $400 - $500 full set

So I think the dealer will list this at $25k plus labor (non-discounted).

The good thing is that the part numbers match the F90 M5, so M5 take-off brakes should do the job if you can find a pristine set.

Good luck!

[M8Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

Sorry to hear but that is really dumb response. People swap steels and CCB's for different reasons and no other car I am aware of requires rotor-specific programming.

Ya it's hard to believe they need specific programing for them. Makes me wonder what difference there could be. Oh well I'm not nearly qualified to know. But it does seem odd.
So 25k to buy the parts and only 9k to order when new. Wow I got some deal on them then. I don't understand the huge spread in price?? WTF is BMW up to?

Add on: I knw there is the setting for the brakes for comfort or sport. Could that be it?

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by M8CGCDan

So finally heard back from dealer, here is what he said:

Hello Mr. Deans. I did not forget about the brake estimate. I got confirmation that BMW will not release any carbon ceramic parts for your vehicle. They are only released by VIN numbers that already have them due to the computer systems with the brakes. Sorry I would have loved to do them for you. Unfortunately it is not possible. Best Regards

Hey I know this is a bit old but just heard back from my dealer after asking a couple times. They will do it VIN or not but you must by the full kit and here is the part number BMW (34-11-2-455-917). He said it is about 14,500 but wasn't sure yet on labor but he was guessing another 1500 -2k. They also update your system by selecting the brake type. This kid was awesome and dove deep to find the answers for me. I might look into on my first set of rotors and pads.

[M8Bimmer]

Jeez...................I ordered mine on the car from new and were quite a giveaway really.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by M8Bimmer

Jeez...................I ordered mine on the car from new and were quite a giveaway really.

Exactly - my only regret with my order. lol

[Opie55]

Originally Posted by M8Bimmer

Ya it's hard to believe they need specific programing for them. Makes me wonder what difference there could be. Oh well I'm not nearly qualified to know. But it does seem odd.
So 25k to buy the parts and only 9k to order when new. Wow I got some deal on them then. I don't understand the huge spread in price?? WTF is BMW up to?

Add on: I knw there is the setting for the brakes for comfort or sport. Could that be it?

That pricing difference phenomenon is true with most any parts, really. Something like night vision was about a $1,300 option from the factory, but if you need to replace just the little glass disc the size of a nickel that gets stone chipped, that alone is over $1,000. I've often wondered what a car would cost if you bought the entire thing as individual parts - each nut and bolt and everything separate. I'm sure an 8 series would be well over a million dollars.

[elitex]

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...it-34112455917

Another $1200 or so for install. It's not too bad. Already confirmed with Getbmwparts that it works for M8.

[M8Bimmer]

Well I can really only add as I've said above someplace, they are great brakes.
Best I've ever owned or used/tried. I love the dustless aspect the most I think. Clean wheels all the time.
The performance is incredible imo.

[Dravit M8]

Anyone on this discussion who feels the need for CC ever been on a track?

Just curious.

[M8Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Dravit M8

Anyone on this discussion who feels the need for CC ever been on a track?

Just curious.

Not yet but might this summer a few times.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by Dravit M8

Anyone on this discussion who feels the need for CC ever been on a track?

Just curious.

Sure have and do many times, but not with an M8 yet. lol

CC's shine on the track and are amazing for those endurance runs, but if you are not sponsored or have lack of funding they don't make as much since because track use is where CC's get actually wore down.

Street use, just don't forget to warm them up a bit, they have worse cold braking performance than steels, until they get warm.