[Uber V8]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Look at the rubber they put on this thing stock, lol

Michelin Pilot Super Sport Cup run-flat summer
front: P285/30ZR19
rear: P335/25ZR20

Goodness.

Did you see the specs for the C7R wheels?

Front: 18 x 12.5
Rear: 18 x 13

[Viktimize]

Originally Posted by jphughan

So wait, you tell me all about how the Viper shines on the track and how the road course people wouldn't have anything else, and then you say you'd keep yours as a purely road car? Seems like it would make more sense to convert the Viper into a full track monster and keep a Corvette for the street since both Corvette and Viper forums seem to agree that the Viper is closer to a track car to start and the Corvette more livable on the street -- although either way you'd be wasting a lot of a great car's potential, which is why I probably wouldn't consider owning both a Z06 and my current M3 even if I decided I could afford to do so.

Viper is too nice to beat up at the track. And too expensive to repair should anything go wrong. Plus the aftermarket isn't near as capable as the Z06. Unlimited cash and ya I would have a Gen5 Viper for track, plus another one for driving around the street.

The old 2006 Z06 is so damn cheap and affordable, takes nothing more than some coil overs, cam and heads, and you have a track weapon. Viper is the better car, but my finances would distaste some compromise unfortunately. lol

Plus who wants to drive around on the street in a car that you'll see 3 of on your way to Starbucks? Having a Z06 as a track rat would kind of be the best of both worlds between the 2 cars.

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Look at the rubber they put on this thing stock, lol

Michelin Pilot Super Sport Cup run-flat summer
front: P285/30ZR19
rear: P335/25ZR20

Goodness.

They were already running the sport cups on the 2013 Zr1. Those tires are nuts.

[Viktimize]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

The car & driver video on here says at the end. Fully optioned C7 Z06 is less than $100k. So it is quite a bit less than the outgoing ZR1.

The new Z06 will have 3 aero (downforce) packages. I am sure the stage 3 aero is pricey. So base price proably upper $80k range.

You can get into one for under 100k. So that means they are talking about the lowest of the 3 trims. Which doesn't even come with any of the aero bits. Under 100k means 99.99k, good luck walking out of the dealer for any less then 110k.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Viktimize

You can get into one for under 100k. So that means they are talking about the lowest of the 3 trims. Which doesn't even come with any of the aero bits. Under 100k means 99.99k, good luck walking out of the dealer for any less then 110k.

Well he said fully optioned for under 100k so I'm not sure about that?

[alms21]

Originally Posted by FwdFtl

Then I'm out of my mind, because I will daily drive that bitch all day long.

Saying that you will is one thing and doing it is another. I said the same thing about the 997S I bought a few years ago. Yeah, DD'ing that car lasted about 30 days. Pain in the ass putting anything in it (gym bag, drycleaning, golf clubs, noise, riding on the ground, etc.)

More power to you if you can but the numbers don't lie. Will guarantee you 75% or more are used as weekend cars.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by alms21

Saying that you will is one thing and doing it is another. I said the same thing about the 997S I bought a few years ago. Yeah, DD'ing that car lasted about 30 days. Pain in the ass putting anything in it (gym bag, drycleaning, golf clubs, noise, riding on the ground, etc.)

More power to you if you can but the numbers don't lie. Will guarantee you 75% or more are used as weekend cars.

Do you daily your GT-R? If you can daily a GT-R you can daily a Z06.

[Viktimize]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Well he said fully optioned for under 100k so I'm not sure about that?

My bad, you're right. So looks like the car we are actually seeing at this unveiling is going to be right around ZR1 pricing.

[DopeM3]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Look at the rubber they put on this thing stock, lol

Michelin Pilot Super Sport Cup run-flat summer
front: P285/30ZR19
rear: P335/25ZR20

Goodness.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Viktimize

My bad, you're right. So looks like the car we are actually seeing at this unveiling is going to be right around ZR1 pricing.

Yeah I'm guessing a base model will be like 85k. Look at the base C7. 57K for a 1LT Z51 but an optioned model is in the 70s.

[Uber V8]

Originally Posted by alms21

Saying that you will is one thing and doing it is another. I said the same thing about the 997S I bought a few years ago. Yeah, DD'ing that car lasted about 30 days. Pain in the ass putting anything in it (gym bag, drycleaning, golf clubs, noise, riding on the ground, etc.)

More power to you if you can but the numbers don't lie. Will guarantee you 75% or more are used as weekend cars.

Well, I DD my 2001 fully built SS for a couple years and that had absolutely NO creature comforts and idled like a top fuel dragster. But hey, I guess I'm part of that other 25%!

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by Viktimize

Viper is too nice to beat up at the track.

Plus who wants to drive around on the street in a car that you'll see 3 of on your way to Starbucks?

Agreed on the cost and availability of aftermarket upgrades being a factor, but these two statements I left makes it very clear that you and I value very different things when it comes to the cars we drive. If you have a car that you can't come even remotely close to experiencing its potential on the road AND you're not willing to drive it on the track, you're wasting both your money and a car IMHO. Of course lots of rich people do that with exotics, but that doesn't make it any less sad. Given the number and variety of cars out there, I don't see the point of either keeping a Viper as a road-only car or having both a Viper and a Z06. If I'm to have two performance monsters, I'd rather there be a larger difference between them.

[alms21]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Do you daily your GT-R? If you can daily a GT-R you can daily a Z06.

Nope. Daily drive (4 days per week to work) my 4Runner. Drive the GTR one day a week to work. Drove my former E92M3 to work 3-4 days.

Like I said, I've owned Vettes and they are not DD'able in my mind.

[jphughan]

Now that silver Z06 is a lot more what I had in mind. Not a fan of yellow cars and black wheels personally. To be honest I've never been a fan of gray/silver cars either (especially performance cars) since they've always seemed so common/drab/boring to me, but I don't like the Corvette blues on offer at the moment, and when I saw a Cyber Gray C7 it looked like Lou Ferrigno wearing Armani, so sign me up!

The yellow car looks to be wearing the top-spec Z07 aero package, judging by the rear spoiler having the see-through center section. That's good news to me since I knew I didn't want the Z07 package (Cup tires wear out way too fast for a DD, and carbon ceramic brakes are still misfits on both the road and track for various reasons unless you really, REALLY hate brake dust), and that aero setup looks a bit much for me for a DD. The mid-spec might be ok as long as the smaller winglets don't extend too far out beyond the side of the car, otherwise they could be a real nightmare when parking, especially on a hill where you have to curb your wheels.

As for it not being manual-only anymore, I see that as both driven by the desire to sell more cars (which should keep pricing down) and also because GM is trying to make the Corvette appeal more to non-US markets, especially the Euro market. Outside the US, manual transmissions are seen as the econobox option. They're popular on regular cars there because cars are a lot more expensive in general, and thus so is the automatic transmission option. But on luxury and performance cars, in the Euro market DCT/auto is preferred because it's seen as a status symbol and also because frankly DCT is objectively faster than a manual -- which is precisely why the M5 is only available in manual form here. I understand the logic, and I'm simply grateful that they didn't pull a GT3 and drop the manual completely. As for it being a slushbox rather than a DCT, we'll just have to see how it behaves.

But the only truly bad thing I'm reading about this car is that it won't be available for a year.

[swanson]

[F1Venom]

Sick interior.

[Year's_End]

Did anyone read up or mention the 8AT 8L90 they're using? They're claiming that it'll shift fractionally quicker than a PDK unit... damn that's impressive for a torque converter-based trans.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Year's_End

Did anyone read up or mention the 8AT 8L90 they're using? They're claiming that it'll shift fractionally quicker than a PDK unit... damn that's impressive for a torque converter-based trans.

Yeah there is a full write up about it on the previous page. I also saw a write up as to why they went Auto instead of DCT. I think they will ship a ton of Auto units to older guys. Good move IMO. The more they sell the more they can dump into the next models.

[Uber V8]

Originally Posted by Year's_End

Did anyone read up or mention the 8AT 8L90 they're using? They're claiming that it'll shift fractionally quicker than a PDK unit... damn that's impressive for a torque converter-based trans.

Yea, 800th of a second quicker than PDK! And PDK is already hhhhhnggggggghhh

This transmission should have us

[swanson]

Sounds sooooooo damn good

[cjwb1984]

Wow!

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by FwdFtl

This is the first car ever, that I would not modify.

Does anyone think that this car has enough negative camber for the track?
The question is, will it need aftermarket camber plates for higher cornering ability?

[Viktimize]

Originally Posted by FwdFtl

Well, I DD my 2001 fully built SS for a couple years and that had absolutely NO creature comforts and idled like a top fuel dragster. But hey, I guess I'm part of that other 25%!

LOL. That is not even remotely comparable. It might sound crazy to someone that hasn't had to do it, but once you spend a few days driving around in a car that is as much of a hassle to get in and out of as a Vette/Viper/(GT-R possibly too?) Then you would get why people don't DD them. It sounds trivial but honestly it sucks and becomes very cumbersome.