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      12-30-2019, 02:15 AM   #23
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I honestly think Jordan is the most overrated athlete of all time. Was he the best player to play the game? Most likely. Was he that much better than the others right under him? Not really. The others were very close to Jordan's greatness.
How is he 'the most overrated athlete of all time' but yet you followed up with 'was he the best player to play the game? Most likely.'
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Bron is a flopper, drama queen, attention whore, pseudo-intellectual, passive player without a killer instinct. Great player for sure, but I can't stand him and his fans.
People seem to forget that LeBron predicted a little over nine years ago how many finals he would be losing....



He is a great player but itís so annoying that he tries SO DAMN HARD to surround himself with a dream team and being the GM. He left Miami as he wanted Ďsayí in player personnel but Riley close that lid quickly. He goes back to Cleveland and as soon as Dion Waiters started bitching about not getting the ball enough LeBron shipped him to OKC. He tells management to sign Tristan Thompson to that ridiculous contract and if it werenít for Draymond they wouldnít have won in 2016. Would LeBron have bolted to the Lakers w/o winning in Cleveland so he can make another chip and dip commercial? Tried hard all last season to trade the whole team and Tommy Lasorda for AD and it backfired. Yeah, they finally got AD but so far they still canít even beat the Clips. KL has his number.
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Seems like ur out of touch with baseball a bit. A few years behind.
You didnít know who Hader was. And Kershaw is a mess in the playoffs. No thanks
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      12-30-2019, 06:16 AM   #25
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How is he 'the most overrated athlete of all time' but yet you followed up with 'was he the best player to play the game? Most likely.'
Because everyone gets offended when you compare anyone to Jordan, he was the best, but he wasn't far and beyond better than everyone else. If you put them on a numbered scale from 0-100, Jordan might be 100, but there are players that are 99,98,and 97.

Most people see that scale as Jordan is 100 and the closest player to him is 75.
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Because everyone gets offended when you compare anyone to Jordan, he was the best, but he wasn't far and beyond better than everyone else. If you put them on a numbered scale from 0-100, Jordan might be 100, but there are players that are 99,98,and 97.

Most people see that scale as Jordan is 100 and the closest player to him is 75.
Do I really need to list Jordan's accolades out to prove how dominant he was?

I'll start with 6/6 in the NBA Finals, and a massive list of hall of famers who never won thanks to him.
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Do I really need to list Jordan's accolades out to prove how dominant he was?

I'll start with 6/6 in the NBA Finals, and a massive list of hall of famers who never won thanks to him.
Jordan is the reason why the Knicks didnít win in 1992 and 1993. Knicks went up 2-0 and immediately lost four straight. 1993 buried me. Charles Smith getting blocked 38 times in seconds and left Ewing ringless.

Why Iím still a Knick fan is beyond belief.
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Seems like ur out of touch with baseball a bit. A few years behind.
You didnít know who Hader was. And Kershaw is a mess in the playoffs. No thanks
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Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Larry
Duncan
Lebron
Hakeem
Shaq
Bill Russell
Havlicek
Agree!!!
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Lebron only the 9th player all time with 9,000 assists and 9,000 rebounds...and he does a lot of good off the court. There isn't a team in the NBA that would not like his services.
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Do I really need to list Jordan's accolades out to prove how dominant he was?

I'll start with 6/6 in the NBA Finals, and a massive list of hall of famers who never won thanks to him.
Do I need to list Kareems?
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Born and raised in SoCal, Laker fan for life. Counting the days Lebron's ass is off the Lakers squad. Can't stand him, never will.
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What sets MJ above the rest, besides his finals record. He was just as good on the defensive end as he was on offensive end. He was a freak, with killer instinct.

All Defensive First Team 9 times. With a Defensive Player of the Year award in 87-88. In 88 season Jordan won Def. Player of the Year, MVP, scoring title, and All Star MVP. Who knows where his records would be if he didn't leave for baseball and had to deal with his dad's murder. He certainly would have won even more championships. Lebron has had 5 first and 1 second All Defensive Team selections, all from early in his career. He hasn't played any league leading defense for years, he is now a one way player. Lebron is a great player, just not the best.

Olajuwon should be on that top ten list. Only other player to win MVP and Defensive Player of the Year award in same season.

I think people forget Kobe's defensive skills. Second most All Defensive Team selections with 12, behind Tim Duncan's 15. Not sure it either deserve to be in top 10 though.
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LBJ has enormous talent and skill, but is a total d-bag. MJ is the G.O.A.T. for a reason, questioning that is blasphemy.
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Iím no huge Lebron fan but this thread is dumb
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Born and raised in SoCal, Laker fan for life. Counting the days Lebron's ass is off the Lakers squad. Can't stand him, never will.
+1

Felt the same when they brought Malone onboard too.
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Lebron > MJ


lebron is the goat.
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LeBron is talking again. Wants to continue Kobe's legacy. LeBron, it's not happening. Your a great player, but no Kobe. Kobe played with, and against the best. The only legacy I'll remember you for, is getting together with other All Stars, so you could win a championship. You started this whole " Super Team" nonsense.
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Not kidding...KD's game > Lebrons game
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LeBron is talking again. Wants to continue Kobe's legacy. LeBron, it's not happening. Your a great player, but no Kobe. Kobe played with, and against the best. The only legacy I'll remember you for, is getting together with other All Stars, so you could win a championship. You started this whole " Super Team" nonsense.
Kobe would've made that buzzer beater to win the game last night against Denver. Nothing else needs to be said.

Kobe > Lebron
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Lebron is not even in my top 5 but then again Kobe isn't even in my top 10.


because you're a retard.
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Lebron is not even in my top 5 but then again Kobe isn't even in my top 10.


because you're a retard.
Yeah? How do you figure?
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I'll take Kobe any day over LeBron.
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NBA ratings are down the last few years. Why do you think that is? A lot of water down teams, probably only a handful of teams that could win a NBA title, no defense, everyone wants to shoot the 3, referee's are whistle happy, players constantly crying over not getting a call, no true centers in the league. I find the NBA has lost the competitive edge. I don't run home to watch LeBron play. I did for players/teams in the late 80s, 90s, and early 20s.
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Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Larry
Duncan
Lebron
Hakeem
Shaq
Bill Russell
Havlicek

your list is good but Kareem should be number 1, he was better than Jordan, and at ALL levels too, not just NBA

Jordan is 2nd
Duncan is 3rd

Also you cannot have a top 10 list without Wilt.

I agree, respect Kobe but he isn't top 10 all time
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