[revan132]

Getting this threat back on track. Just got my new winter wheels put on.

[noushy]

I have posted this before.

[noushy]

But this is my main winter setup, second pic is the latest with all add ons

[BeeMdblU]

Originally Posted by revan132

Getting this threat back on track. Just got my new winter wheels put on.

I'm surprised you need winters in Delaware, are those PA5's?

[revan132]

Originally Posted by BeeMdblU

I'm surprised you need winters in Delaware, are those PA5's?

Yeah, that's right. It does get moderately cold here and can snow a bit. My wife's X3 gets us through the real snow, but I want to be able to drive the M8 year round, so I need these.

[Wolfman64]

Dirty car but we use factory 20" size staggered setup
Tires:
275/35R-20 PIRELLI WINTER SOTTOZERO SERIE II XL
285/35R-20 PIRELLI WINTER SOTTOZERO SERIE II N1(PORSCHE) XL

[BeeMdblU]

wheel size on the M8's is more suitable to ice and snow than on the 850

[BeeMdblU]

Originally Posted by revan132

Yeah, that's right. It does get moderately cold here and can snow a bit. My wife's X3 gets us through the real snow, but I want to be able to drive the M8 year round, so I need these.

PA5's are surprisingly extremely quiet for winters, I hope they perform well.

[fmzip]

Reviving this thread.....picked up a set of 647M's for the M850i

[snowbimmer]

Originally Posted by fmzip

Reviving this thread.....picked up a set of 647M's for the M850i

What kind of rubber you putting on?
Are those 19" staggered?

[snareman]

I know it can vary, but what is the average cost for a decent looking set of wheels and winter tires including mounting the tires and swapping them out for the summer tires on the car?

[hinckley]

Originally Posted by snareman

I know it can vary, but what is the average cost for a decent looking set of wheels and winter tires including mounting the tires and swapping them out for the summer tires on the car?

Wheel costs are all over the board. I think it depends on how important the look of the car is to you. It's $350 - $400 for a high-quality winter sport tire (I used to run Dunlop WinterSports).

For me, the right wheels make or break a car. After model and color, wheels are the most important styling element in my car choices. So when I lived up north, I always kept my OEM wheels on my cars and only swapped the tires between seasons. That's the way it was done for decades. It's only been the last 10 or 15 years that we've been told that a full set of wheels and tires was necessary for each season. I think it's crazy.

I know that some will say you need to down-size wheels and tires for the winter, but I've run 20" snows without any problem, but of course was smart enough not to try to drive in a two foot blizzard. But 8 - 12 inches? Zero problem. And with respect to those of you who have made the choice, 18" or 19" wheels look terrible on a car as large as the 8er. I just couldn't ruin the look of my car for almost half of the time I own it.

I only use quality shops, so have never had a problem with damaging my wheels when swapping tires, it's more cost effective, and it maintains the OEM look of the car year-round. I know I'm in the minority and will get blow back cuz no one does this anymore, but it's worth the consideration imo. Just my $0.02.

[fmzip]

Originally Posted by snareman

I know it can vary, but what is the average cost for a decent looking set of wheels and winter tires including mounting the tires and swapping them out for the summer tires on the car?

I snagged the 19" wheels up for $1500. They were dealer take-offs. Picked up Artic Alpin 5's 245/40/19's for $1000 new. 4 new TMPS's cost $160. I think that's pretty reasonable from what I've seen over the past several months of investigating what's out there.

My wheel shop stores and swaps my wheels sets for $50 each spring/fall. I agree with Hinckley's post above, a second set isn't necessary. Personally, running 20's with the crappy winter roads here in CT is something I'd rather not do. Certainly asking for a bent wheel.

Mounting and balancing shouldn't run much me more than 20-30 per wheel. You'd be looking at $200-$250 per season to swap tires out if you decide to go that route.

I do agree that 20's look so much better but 19's look pretty nice too. Photo below are stock 19's. If you go with an all black wheel, the difference in wheel size should also be less noticeable

[fmzip]

Originally Posted by snowbimmer

What kind of rubber you putting on?
Are those 19" staggered?

Non staggered 25 offset all around. 245/40/19 Artic Alpin5's.

https://www.bbwheelsonline.com/miche...YaAimCEALw_wcB

[snareman]

Originally Posted by hinckley

Wheel costs are all over the board. I think it depends on how important the look of the car is to you. It's $350 - $400 for a high-quality winter sport tire (I used to run Dunlop WinterSports).

For me, the right wheels make or break a car. After model and color, wheels are the most important styling element in my car choices. So when I lived up north, I always kept my OEM wheels on my cars and only swapped the tires between seasons. That's the way it was done for decades. It's only been the last 10 or 15 years that we've been told that a full set of wheels and tires was necessary for each season. I think it's crazy.

I know that some will say you need to down-size wheels and tires for the winter, but I've run 20" snows without any problem, but of course was smart enough not to try to drive in a two foot blizzard. But 8 - 12 inches? Zero problem. And with respect to those of you who have made the choice, 18" or 19" wheels look terrible on a car as large as the 8er. I just couldn't ruin the look of my car for almost half of the time I own it.

I only use quality shops, so have never had a problem with damaging my wheels when swapping tires, it's more cost effective, and it maintains the OEM look of the car year-round. I know I'm in the minority and will get blow back cuz no one does this anymore, but it's worth the consideration imo. Just my $0.02.

I totally agree on the look of the wheels being important to the look of the car. For the past 20 years I've always just parked my sporty car for the winter having an SUV to drive. I'm frustrated though that I'm going to get my M8 in 11 days just in time to drive for a month or so and then park for 3 months. If I was going on a short trip in the winter with zero chance for snow I could take my 'car' in the past, but was always nervous that some snow might develop during my 10h at work. I learned some years back just how completely unsafe summer tires are on even just light snow. No accidents, just slid all over the place. I wouldn't need full on snow tires for the 8 as I'd probably drive the X3 in real snow, but something to at least get me through freezing weather and a light bit of snow might be nice. Its just a matter of if its worth spending ~$3k for 3ish months of driving. Or, for the life of the car maybe 10-12 months total.

I'm not tire smart enough to know how good or bad swapping just the rubber is, but yes I've heard that it's not great for the tires. Also -

[snowbimmer]

Originally Posted by fmzip

Non staggered 25 offset all around. 245/40/19 Artic Alpin5's.

https://www.bbwheelsonline.com/miche...YaAimCEALw_wcB

I picked up my M850 in April and had to throw on snow tires for a trip I was taking out of state. Luckily I had a 19" (square) set from a previous M550 running 245/40/19 Sottozeros. These are 664Ms. I don't think they look half bad.


I needed them for the first 1,000 miles: several snowy passes and one 8,000 foot pass in a near blizzard when the temp dropped to 28 degrees.

They even did the job in Death Valley. I didn't slide off the road once.


I had Alpin5s on my two M5s. They are a very good winter tire. The Sottozeros have a much more aggressive tread, so they are probably a better snow tire. But they were squirrely - probably not suited for windy 2 lane roads in the SW at 75 mph when its 90 degrees outside. The 8" width didn't help either.

I'd like to get new snows for my OEM 728 wheels this year and then look at an aftermarket set for summers next spring.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by snowbimmer

I picked up my M850 in April and had to throw on snow tires for a trip I was taking out of state. Luckily I had a 19" (square) set from a previous M550 running 245/40/19 Sottozeros. These are 664Ms. I don't think they look half bad.
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I needed them for the first 1,000 miles: several snowy passes and one 8,000 foot pass in a near blizzard when the temp dropped to 28 degrees.

They even did the job in Death Valley. I didn't slide off the road once.
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I had Alpin5s on my two M5s. They are a very good winter tire. The Sottozeros have a much more aggressive tread, so they are probably a better snow tire. But they were squirrely - probably not suited for windy 2 lane roads in the SW at 75 mph when its 90 degrees outside. The 8" width didn't help either.

I'd like to get new snows for my OEM 728 wheels this year and then look at an aftermarket set for summers next spring.

Those look great!

[fmzip]

Originally Posted by snareman

I learned some years back just how completely unsafe summer tires are on even just light snow. No accidents, just slid all over the place. I wouldn't need full

One spring, I decided to put my summer setup back on April 1st instead of waiting til the 15th like I normally do. Found myself in a little freezing sleet with the 530. Had zero traction, I've never been so petrified driving in my entire life.

Needless to say, I will never rush the swap over EVER again. This is all the wintery mix you need to have no control of your car with summer tires on

[snareman]

Originally Posted by fmzip

One spring, I decided to put my summer setup back on April 1st instead of waiting til the 15th like I normally do. Found myself in a little freezing sleet with the 530. Had zero traction, I've never been so petrified driving in my entire life.

Needless to say, I will never rush the swap over EVER again. This is all the wintery mix you need to have no control of your car with summer tires on

I agree totally. I learned my lesson two different simple times. I was at a light turning left with less of a dusting than your picture shows even. The light turned green and I couldn't even make it through the intersection before the light turned red again because I was sliding so much. Also, I couldn't back up my driveway which has the slightest incline.

[Phili]

Originally Posted by snareman

I know it can vary, but what is the average cost for a decent looking set of wheels and winter tires including mounting the tires and swapping them out for the summer tires on the car?

Hey Snareman. This is what I paid in CAD. Tires and rims. Keep in mind I haven't received the tires or the car yet. Got the ones on the right

[bloozemanAZ]

I'll be the forever jester on this thread as there is no winter setup here in AZ.

Here's a couple of quick pics while getting gas with the new P Zero PZ4s on shortly after picking up from the dealer so ready to roll for our winter months.

Vic55 same pics I sent AN and now they're all over me to bring the car in as wanting to increase the cash offer.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by bloozemanAZ

I'll be the forever jester on this thread as there is no winter setup here in AZ.

Here's a couple of quick pics while getting gas with the new P Zero PZ4s on shortly after picking up from the dealer so ready to roll for our winter months.

Vic55 same pics I sent AN and now they're all over me to bring the car in as wanting ton increase the cash offer.

You beat me to it. I was going to take a nice top down pic and post it here.