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      09-02-2019, 05:59 AM   #23
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Here in Minnesota the states that "A landlord may not restrict the lawful carry or possession of firearms by tenants or their guests". I'm kinda surprised that they were aloud to in TX
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Catching up? Seems like it's regressing. The latest example of the state telling you what you can't do with your property.
Doesn't the gun owner have a right to his property too? I'm talking 2nd amendment really. I guess if you feel strongly enough about it then don't rent to anyone you think has guns, but I'm not sure you can even ask the question "do you own guns" on a rental application.
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So the thing about this is why would you even care if someone who was renting a property from you kept guns? I can see why landlords might have an issue with pets as there is the possibility of them damaging the property. But again why would you care especially in the US were the 2nd amendment gives the right to keep and bare arms, what's next? I don't want you to own Apple computers because I'm a microsoft kind of landlord. This whole thing doesn't really make sense to me. Maybe you are of British decent and don't want your tenant to own knives either......
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Catching up? Seems like it's regressing. The latest example of the state telling you what you can't do with your property.
No, the "right" to keep arms is listed in the bill of rights, not your desire to try to control what I do.
So is the right to property. I don't tell you what you can do on your property. "Public" property is different, but we're talking private property.
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Catching up? Seems like it's regressing. The latest example of the state telling you what you can't do with your property.
Doesn't the gun owner have a right to his property too? I'm talking 2nd amendment really. I guess if you feel strongly enough about it then don't rent to anyone you think has guns, but I'm not sure you can even ask the question "do you own guns" on a rental application.
Yes, but by choosing to be on someone else's property you agree to their rules.

I can demand that nobody is allowed to carry a firearm on my property. That's my right as a private property owner.

The premise that someone must allow tenants to possess firearms is the same that the State of Colorado used to take the cake baker to court.
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Yes, but not by choosing to be on someone else's property you agree to their rules.

I can demand that nobody is allowed to carry a firearm on my property. That's my right as a private property owner.

The premise that someone must allow tenants to possess firearms is the same premise that the State of Colorado used to take the cake baker to court.
Like I said, if you don't want to rent to someone who owns firearms then don't rent to them. You can always find a reason to not rent to someone and you really don't need to provide them one. Having said that if you rent to them and they have firearms and you don't know I doubt you could do anything about it. I don't understand why you'd care though.
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So the thing about this is why would you even care if someone who was renting a property from you kept guns? I can see why landlords might have an issue with pets as there is the possibility of them damaging the property. But again why would you care especially in the US were the 2nd amendment gives the right to keep and bare arms, what's next? I don't want you to own Apple computers because I'm a microsoft kind of landlord. This whole thing doesn't really make sense to me. Maybe you are of British decent and don't want your tenant to own knives either......
It doesn't have to be guns. It could be anything. Take marijuana as an example. Would you want the State to enforce a law saying your garage tenant has a right to smoke MJ?

Displaying Bernie Sanders memorabilia in his/her window?
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Yes, but not by choosing to be on someone else's property you agree to their rules.

I can demand that nobody is allowed to carry a firearm on my property. That's my right as a private property owner.

The premise that someone must allow tenants to possess firearms is the same premise that the State of Colorado used to take the cake baker to court.
Like I said, if you don't want to rent to someone who owns firearms then don't rent to them. You can always find a reason to not rent to someone and you really don't need to provide them one. Having said that if you rent to them and they have firearms and you don't know I doubt you could do anything about it. I don't understand why you'd care though.
You can't in TX. You've lost the right to write that into a lease and you surely can't ask.
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It doesn't have to be guns. It could be anything. Take marijuana as an example. Would you want the State to enforce a law saying your garage tenant has a right to smoke MJ?

Displaying Bernie Sanders memorabilia in his/her window?
It's legal in Canada, our dopey PM uses it. You can't drink a beer or a bottle of wine in a park here but spark up all you want.

Again, what if your tenant wanted to drink or smoke in the home you've rented them, or grow marijuana. i put not to grow marijuana in my last lease but that was before it was legalized so I don't know if I can really stop someone from doing something that is legal in their home. Sure, they have a Justin Trudeau bumper sticker and it's a no go.

What I'm more concerned about is them paying the rent and not damaging the property. They can make gay midget porn in the basement for all I care as long as the rent gets paid.
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...So the thing about this is why would you even care if someone who was renting a property from you kept guns? ...
Haven't you heard that guns kill people?

Off topic, my wife didn't like it that I got an AR-15 a while back. I put a box off bullets and the magazine on the counter and told her to load it. Well she couldn't figure that out, so I said just try to put the empty magazine into the lower and pull the charging handle. Let's just say she won't be shooting me anytime soon.
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Haven't you heard that guns kill people?

Off topic, my wife didn't like it that I got an AR-15 a while back. I put a box off bullets and the magazine on the counter and told her to load it. Well she couldn't figure that out, so I said just try to put the empty magazine into the lower and pull the charging handle. Let's just say she won't be shooting me anytime soon.
Here in Canada, you need to get spousal and ex spousal permission to get a PAL, Purchase Aquisition Licence (gun licence). We also have to submit to RCMP background/name check every 24 hours among other measures. The one rule that really stumps me though is that if say I owned a large piece of property and wanted to shoot on it. I could with my non-restricted firearms, long guns etc but I couldn't shoot my restricted weapons, (hand guns and rifles with a barrel shorter than 18*) On the upside I can smoke marijuana just about anywhere though.

My wife can load all the guns and she can shoot well too.
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Here in Canada, you need to get spousal and ex spousal permission to get a PAL, Purchase Aquisition Licence (gun licence). We also have to submit to RCMP background/name check every 24 hours among other measures. The one rule that really stumps me though is that if say I owned a large piece of property and wanted to shoot on it. I could with my non-restricted firearms, long guns etc but I couldn't shoot my restricted weapons, (hand guns and rifles with a barrel shorter than 18*) On the upside I can smoke marijuana just about anywhere though.

My wife can load all the guns and she can shoot well too.
Strange laws for sure. So keep your wife stoned, and put rubber bullets in the box.
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Off topic, my wife didn't like it that I got an AR-15 a while back. QUOTE]

O’Rourke indicated that when he becomes President he will issue a mandatory buyback (ie confiscation) of AR-15's..of course he incorrectly referred to AR-15 as an Assault weapon. No matter..no one outside of Caali,NY, NJ., etc. will never win an election when confiscation firearms is a platform. And any idiot (he is dumber than an idiot) knows the Constitution won't allow his nonsense.

F32Fleet. I was initially against your thoughts. But really it does not violate anyone's rights. They make the choice as to whether they want to rent from you. Businesses that request a firearm free (killing zone) are within their rights. Just won't get my business. And its illegal to carry in a school zone or a P.O. so I don't. When I go to a soccer game to watch my friend's kids play...I disarm and park off the school property.
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A dog is better at protecting your property than a gun. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
Not necessarily.
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