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      08-28-2019, 12:49 AM   #23
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Well prior to the sewage-ification and sludgifying of online dating.
Very true, i approach online dating since I didn't like the night life scean or the women it produce and the modern day work force says you shouldn't date co workers. So I went the online method and came across

SJW femanist I got daddy Issue girls

Alcoholic Hillbilly Girl

I ignore the fact my profile clearly says not interested in women who already have kids and when I point that out I'm every nasty thing in the book because I don't want to deal with other people poor life choices.

So by that point I said F it broke the work rule and now happily married.
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I view it as a historic aspect, I don't want to be the genetic dead end for all my ancestor who survive much worse then I ever have to endure or was under much more harsher condition then I'll ever live with. Would make me appear to be a total failure at the one goal that was set for me as a living organism and make their struggle really wasted due to my own selfishness. But that my prospective you do whatever you feel is best.
I've only seen a fraction of the pain my great aunt has experienced knowing she will not have any grandchildren to carry the family name. One child got married but chose not to have kids, and the other never married. I can sense her pain and have seen her cry. I am sure I could fill some of that void. I'm only in my mid-20s, but I hope to deliver her that gift someday.

Regardless, I have always planned on marrying and having kids. It just seems like the right thing to do. Being single will get old once my friends start getting tied down. I've seen how unhappy and lonely people who never married are. But then again, if you marry the wrong person it can screw your life too. I've learned that not everybody is cut out for marriage and parenting, and frankly it's better for society if such people never take on this responsibility (or burden, depending on your point of view).
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Wait wait wait!!

You mean young people are not as patriotic, don't care about religion and aren't thinking about having kids??

Hold the press!!!!!!!!! That has literally never been the case in all of history.

you just described the definition of being young.

Maybee next with your amazing research you'll discover young people live longer then old people or that young people like to play music loudly

You crazy republicans fell off the deep end of reality a really long time ago
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Wait wait wait!!

You mean young people are not as patriotic, don't care about religion and aren't thinking about having kids??

Hold the press!!!!!!!!! That has literally never been the case in all of history.

you just described the definition of being young.

Maybee next with your amazing research you'll discover young people live longer then old people or that young people like to play music loudly

You crazy republicans fell off the deep end of reality a really long time ago
Actually the life expectancy for the the younger generation has gone down due to drug usage cause by filling the void of nothingness cause by lack of love, family, community and spirituality.
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      08-28-2019, 07:23 AM   #27
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Went through a lot of stuff, letters home, pics, uniform, Purple heart, Aviation Medal, picture of he and gf...Wife's uncle , Fighter Pilot killed during WWII. Years of training hard work he went through.

This lack of Patriotism rubs me the wrong way when you look at what he gave...
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I am a millennial and I have already made up my mind to never marry or have kids. Too much risk and very little reward makes no sense to me. I don't really care about religion or society in general, so I just go on about doing my own thing on a day to day basis.
No offense, and everyone is welcome to do what they want to do, but your description seems a bit selfish and seems like it would lead to an empty and unfulfilled existence over the long run, no?
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No offense, and everyone is welcome to do what they want to do, but your description seems a bit selfish and seems like it would lead to an empty and unfulfilled existence over the long run, no?
From reading his other posts, he's a raging far left progressive SJW, so it's probably good his genes are going to die out.
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At least tolerance for others is on the rise.
If the rest of the world follows that trend some day wars may be a thing of the past
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No offense, and everyone is welcome to do what they want to do, but your description seems a bit selfish and seems like it would lead to an empty and unfulfilled existence over the long run, no?
No offense taken as I am not leaning towards the progressive left SJW as others might think.

I know myself way better than anyone else to know that the married with kids life script is NOT for me. That path will lead to family court and then suicide (seen it way too many times already).

It's true that women and children give men purpose, but the cost is TOO great and I am searching to create purpose for myself. Since I have bought more time to explore this avenue, I am sure once I create purpose for myself, it will not be unfulfilled existence over the long run.
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I view it as a historic aspect, I don't want to be the genetic dead end for all my ancestor who survive much worse then I ever have to endure or was under much more harsher condition then I'll ever live with. Would make me appear to be a total failure at the one goal that was set for me as a living organism and make their struggle really wasted due to my own selfishness. But that my prospective you do whatever you feel is best.
I have nieces and nephews to "carry on" the family legacy, so I'm all good.

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From reading his other posts, he's a raging far left progressive SJW, so it's probably good his genes are going to die out.
Classy.
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I have nieces and nephews to "carry on" the family legacy, so I'm all good.

I share your thoughts as well. I'd rather be a cool uncle than being a miserable parent.
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No offense taken as I am not leaning towards the progressive left SJW as others might think.

I know myself way better than anyone else to know that the married with kids life script is NOT for me. That path will lead to family court and then suicide (seen it way too many times already).

It's true that women and children give men purpose, but the cost is TOO great and I am searching to create purpose for myself. Since I have bought more time to explore this avenue, I am sure once I create purpose for myself, it will not be unfulfilled existence over the long run.
Do you mind if I ask how old you are? I promise this isn't some "Bah, you're too young to know what you're talking about" dismissal. I'm just acknowledging the truth that peoples' wants and needs frequently change over time.

I'm one of those people, in fact. I always assumed I'd want to start a family "some day". When I hit my mid-to-late 30s and "some day" still hadn't gotten here, I figured out I didn't really want kids after all.
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No offense, and everyone is welcome to do what they want to do, but your description seems a bit selfish and seems like it would lead to an empty and unfulfilled existence over the long run, no?
People find purpose and fulfillment in all manner of places other than family. No?
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I'm one of those people, in fact. I always assumed I'd want to start a family "some day". When I hit my mid-to-late 30s and "some day" still hadn't gotten here, I figured out I didn't really want kids after all.
I didn't have a child until I was 38yo.

I think it's more a matter of finding the right person to have a family with then age - after you've passed your 20's.
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I didn't have a child until I was 38yo.

I think it's more a matter of finding the right person to have a family with then age - after you've passed your 20's.
Not for me, it wasn't.
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well yeah.

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From reading his other posts, he's a raging far left progressive SJW, so it's probably good his genes are going to die out.
That is not necessarily true. If he has nephews and nieces then each one of them would have 25% of his genetic material within their DNA. If his siblings have four kids then his genetic profile carries forward another generation.

I have one kid, four nephews, and four nieces so that is 250% of my genetic material out there so far. If he is supportive and helps his siblings with care of those children perhaps they have more offspring. This has long been a family reproductive strategy of humans.

Gen X here. 41, as I said I have one kid. Wouldn't mind another. Patriotic, but not blindly stupid patriotic like some of the older generations. American exceptionalism has some truth to it with how the country was setup but there are a lot of things that need to be adjusted for the modern world to regain that sense of pride and superiority. Deeply anti-theistic. I wish people could separate church and state but history has proven otherwise.
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Do you mind if I ask how old you are? I promise this isn't some "Bah, you're too young to know what you're talking about" dismissal. I'm just acknowledging the truth that peoples' wants and needs frequently change over time.

I'm one of those people, in fact. I always assumed I'd want to start a family "some day". When I hit my mid-to-late 30s and "some day" still hadn't gotten here, I figured out I didn't really want kids after all.
This guy gets it.

Some people need to have kids to feel complete, some dont.

its a matter of personal preference and opinion.
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I view it as a historic aspect, I don't want to be the genetic dead end for all my ancestor who survive much worse then I ever have to endure or was under much more harsher condition then I'll ever live with. Would make me appear to be a total failure at the one goal that was set for me as a living organism and make their struggle really wasted due to my own selfishness. But that my prospective you do whatever you feel is best.
Seems pretty short sighted of you to say that not having kids is a failure.

There are hundreds of millions of people out there that cant have kids for one reason or another. So in your eyes, they are failures? gtfo
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Sorry I have to repeat it because I can't stop laughing at how stupid some of these republicans are.

They are outraged that young ppl aren't thinking about kids right now
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I'm a 45 and GenXer. I'm spiritual but not religious. I feel that religion is single largest creator of division, death, and destruction in this world. Christianity is very guilty here, just as Islam is and other religions with very violent histories. There is ABSOLUTELY no place for religion in our government or public schools. It leads to nothing positive.

When it comes to "patriotism", I guess it's how you define it. Most people that I personally know that say they are patriotic have very one-sided nationalist views, have racist tendencies, are Christian, are resistant to anything remotely "socialist" (though they want their Medicare and social security LOL), are supportive of all-out capitalism and stepping on the next guy to get ahead, and have little concern for the environment. I don't see that as patriotic at all. I see that as close-minded, the "I got mine so the hell with you" mindset, leads to division, and no interest helping out each other because it's "socialist". You can most certainly support your country and be patriotic all the while being supportive and open-minded to other countries and working towards the collective good. I feel this is where the older (i.e., 50+ y/o) have really failed.

The world has a population problem and there are way too many damn terrible parents out there that have kids because they thought that's what you're supposed to do. I'm glad to see the newer generations taking time to think if they really want kids. It's a big freaking responsibility. I enjoy and love my kids and don't remember much of my life without them, but I have no issues with someone making the decision that kids aren't of interest to them.

The younger generations (including us GenXers) have become very frustrated with the direction of our government and the country as a whole. It is a good thing that there will be a changing of the guard because old white-haired men and your crazy uncle Bob sure haven't helped things for this country. It's only created divide, whether it be social or economic. Yes, the younger generations are more idealistic (they're young after all), but it's good to see a different, more open and European mindset. I look forward to it. All you older folks will be gone and won't have to see it so why worry?
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