[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Tesla is cutting rear-wheel-drive Model Y prices by $4,600. The Model Y Long Range and Model Y Performance will see $5,000 price cuts, according to Bloomberg.

If they get to free I'll gift mine to gblansten

[Car-Addicted]

We’ve been promised that EVs will lead to cleaner air. This Bay Area study just proved it
04-04-2024
Researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, finally have some answers: Between 2018 and 2022, CO2 emissions from all sources across the San Francisco Bay Area dropped about 1.8% annually, a decrease the researchers attribute to the rise in EVs, according to a study published today in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. Vehicle emission rates specifically dropped 2.6% annually.
It’s good news that emissions across the Bay Area are dropping, but it’s also true that emissions need to decrease more. California has a goal to reach net-zero emissions by 2045. To get there “smoothly,” Cohen says, emissions should be dropping 3.7% per year. The 1.8% annual drop was only related to vehicle emissions—which account for about a third of local emissions. To reach the broader goal, home and industry emissions have to drop, too, which will require new policies.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91077045...just-proved-it

You know what else reduces CO2? People leaving the area and business's closing.

San Francisco's Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities
Struggling with rampant homelessness, a drug crisis, surging crime and several business closures, San Francisco is no longer the thriving city it used to be. Its decline in recent months has led some to say the city "is dying"—especially as its citizens move elsewhere.
A quarter of a million people have reportedly fled the Bay Area since the beginning of 2020. According to U.S. Census estimates, San Francisco's population dropped by 7.2 percent between 2020 and 2021 and by 0.3 percent between 2021 and 2022.
https://www.newsweek.com/san-francis...cities-1801200

[Car-Addicted]

More example of the Green Grift:

EV Charging Station Company Files For Chapter 11 Bankruptcy
04/05/24
Just recently, a company that sets up charging stations for electric vehicles has filed for bankruptcy. The reason? Charge Enterprise owes too much money, and it may be due to incompetence.
https://thatsviralnow.com/ev-chargin...11-bankruptcy/

Charge Enterprises Lawsuit vs. KORR, Former Chairman: Details and Timeline
January 13, 2024
The lawsuit alleges that KORR "improperly shifted" Charge Enterprises funds "to accounts for the benefit of other companies." Charge Enterprises, an electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure company, is seeking damages in excess of $15 million, the lawsuit states.
https://sustainabletechpartner.com/v...-and-timeline/

Inside Charge Enterprises: An FBI Sting Operation, Penny Stock Promotion, Money Laundering & A Plethora Of Fruitless Ventures
Charge Enterprises owns a portfolio of electric vehicle charging & telecom infrastructure businesses worth a market cap of roughly $900M.
Our diligence reveals individuals associated with Charge appear to have a checkered history of alleged fraud, money laundering, and failed penny stock promotion.
Our work unveils a transcript in which the CEO of Charge’s predecessor company [GoIP Global] tries to bribe an undercover FBI agent in exchange for investment in GoIP.
Before entering the EV business, GoIP transitioned from an energy tech business to growing cannabis. They told investors in 2019 it was acquiring a Kenyan cannabis license. The Kenyan government denied ever issuing them a license.
We uncovered that Charge’s founder previously plead guilty to money laundering, declared bankruptcy in 2017, and was involved in alleged pump & dumps.
Charge’s latest acquisition, EV Group Holdings LLC, has ties to an individual barred from the SEC due to purported fraudulent investment dealings in 2014 & later the primary recipient of alleged stolen investors funds.
Charge’s first foray into the EV space through the acquisition of GetCharged has been largely written off despite paying $28M for it two years ago.
https://peabodystreet.substack.com/p...rprises-an-fbi

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

We’ve been promised that EVs will lead to cleaner air. This Bay Area study just proved it
04-04-2024
Researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, finally have some answers: Between 2018 and 2022, CO2 emissions from all sources across the San Francisco Bay Area dropped about 1.8% annually, a decrease the researchers attribute to the rise in EVs, according to a study published today in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. Vehicle emission rates specifically dropped 2.6% annually.
It’s good news that emissions across the Bay Area are dropping, but it’s also true that emissions need to decrease more. California has a goal to reach net-zero emissions by 2045. To get there “smoothly,” Cohen says, emissions should be dropping 3.7% per year. The 1.8% annual drop was only related to vehicle emissions—which account for about a third of local emissions. To reach the broader goal, home and industry emissions have to drop, too, which will require new policies.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91077045...just-proved-it

You know what else reduces CO2? People leaving the area and business's closing.

San Francisco's Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities
Struggling with rampant homelessness, a drug crisis, surging crime and several business closures, San Francisco is no longer the thriving city it used to be. Its decline in recent months has led some to say the city "is dying"—especially as its citizens move elsewhere.
A quarter of a million people have reportedly fled the Bay Area since the beginning of 2020. According to U.S. Census estimates, San Francisco's population dropped by 7.2 percent between 2020 and 2021 and by 0.3 percent between 2021 and 2022.
https://www.newsweek.com/san-francis...cities-1801200

I just read an article where the author was saying San Fran adopting -EV’s has made the air cleaner, proof that EV’s will save the planet. CO2 was down there from 2018 to 2022 , yea EV’s

More like Covid happened in 2020, people stopped going into work in cars of any type, many moved away completely , businesses were shuttered, and much of that economic activity never recovered. Maybe that’s where the CO2 went. Perhaps the fix for CO2 pollution is to wreck your city with crime, people sitting on their asses on the government dole, and outsourcing all your productive labor.: bums and homeless illegals don’t produce as much CO2 as actual working stiffs.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

We’ve been promised that EVs will lead to cleaner air. This Bay Area study just proved it
04-04-2024
Researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, finally have some answers: Between 2018 and 2022, CO2 emissions from all sources across the San Francisco Bay Area dropped about 1.8% annually, a decrease the researchers attribute to the rise in EVs, according to a study published today in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. Vehicle emission rates specifically dropped 2.6% annually.
It’s good news that emissions across the Bay Area are dropping, but it’s also true that emissions need to decrease more. California has a goal to reach net-zero emissions by 2045. To get there “smoothly,” Cohen says, emissions should be dropping 3.7% per year. The 1.8% annual drop was only related to vehicle emissions—which account for about a third of local emissions. To reach the broader goal, home and industry emissions have to drop, too, which will require new policies.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91077045...just-proved-it

You know what else reduces CO2? People leaving the area and business's closing.

San Francisco's Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities
Struggling with rampant homelessness, a drug crisis, surging crime and several business closures, San Francisco is no longer the thriving city it used to be. Its decline in recent months has led some to say the city "is dying"—especially as its citizens move elsewhere.
A quarter of a million people have reportedly fled the Bay Area since the beginning of 2020. According to U.S. Census estimates, San Francisco's population dropped by 7.2 percent between 2020 and 2021 and by 0.3 percent between 2021 and 2022.
https://www.newsweek.com/san-francis...cities-1801200

We can bet our bottom dollars now that Bozo will do his darnest to cover up the real reason there has been a clean air spike in the city where flower power flourished.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

We’ve been promised that EVs will lead to cleaner air. This Bay Area study just proved it
04-04-2024
Researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, finally have some answers: Between 2018 and 2022, CO2 emissions from all sources across the San Francisco Bay Area dropped about 1.8% annually, a decrease the researchers attribute to the rise in EVs, according to a study published today in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. Vehicle emission rates specifically dropped 2.6% annually.
It’s good news that emissions across the Bay Area are dropping, but it’s also true that emissions need to decrease more. California has a goal to reach net-zero emissions by 2045. To get there “smoothly,” Cohen says, emissions should be dropping 3.7% per year. The 1.8% annual drop was only related to vehicle emissions—which account for about a third of local emissions. To reach the broader goal, home and industry emissions have to drop, too, which will require new policies.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91077045...just-proved-it

You know what else reduces CO2? People leaving the area and business's closing.

San Francisco's Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities
Struggling with rampant homelessness, a drug crisis, surging crime and several business closures, San Francisco is no longer the thriving city it used to be. Its decline in recent months has led some to say the city "is dying"—especially as its citizens move elsewhere.
A quarter of a million people have reportedly fled the Bay Area since the beginning of 2020. According to U.S. Census estimates, San Francisco's population dropped by 7.2 percent between 2020 and 2021 and by 0.3 percent between 2021 and 2022.
https://www.newsweek.com/san-francis...cities-1801200

Otherwise known as making statistics lie for you. The Greens are expert at it.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Otherwise known as making statistics lie for you. The Greens are expert at it.

Looks like CO2 emissions dropped 48 percent from the 1990s to 2020. At 2020 the data was pre-Covid. A steady drop had been occurring for over thirty years.

https://www.sfenvironment.org/files/...lance_2020.pdf

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

If they get to free I'll gift mine to gblansten

He's already got one, I'll take it off your hands

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

We’ve been promised that EVs will lead to cleaner air. This Bay Area study just proved it
04-04-2024
Researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, finally have some answers: Between 2018 and 2022, CO2 emissions from all sources across the San Francisco Bay Area dropped about 1.8% annually, a decrease the researchers attribute to the rise in EVs, according to a study published today in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. Vehicle emission rates specifically dropped 2.6% annually.
It’s good news that emissions across the Bay Area are dropping, but it’s also true that emissions need to decrease more. California has a goal to reach net-zero emissions by 2045. To get there “smoothly,” Cohen says, emissions should be dropping 3.7% per year. The 1.8% annual drop was only related to vehicle emissions—which account for about a third of local emissions. To reach the broader goal, home and industry emissions have to drop, too, which will require new policies.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91077045...just-proved-it

You know what else reduces CO2? People leaving the area and business's closing.

San Francisco's Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities
Struggling with rampant homelessness, a drug crisis, surging crime and several business closures, San Francisco is no longer the thriving city it used to be. Its decline in recent months has led some to say the city "is dying"—especially as its citizens move elsewhere.
A quarter of a million people have reportedly fled the Bay Area since the beginning of 2020. According to U.S. Census estimates, San Francisco's population dropped by 7.2 percent between 2020 and 2021 and by 0.3 percent between 2021 and 2022.
https://www.newsweek.com/san-francis...cities-1801200

COVID is the cause of declining C02 from 2020 to 2022. No one driving / offices empty.

[Ugly Kar]

Even the guy that wants to sell you a Tesla knows what's really going on.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...5Es1_&ref_url=

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Even the guy that wants to sell you a Tesla knows what's really going on.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...5Es1_&ref_url=

And they control the Liberal Elite thinking. The 3rd word has caught on and is telling them to F off. China simply uses them for its own purposes. Also, we'd really appreciate a couple billion of you dying, like immediately, for Gaia.

[gilberjj]

Moderators, would you please change the title of this thread to “EV hate group: We hate EVs and will spin any story to EV hate”
Let’s call it what it is.

Maybe I should just stop visiting this thread, but the amount of blind hate is baffling. None of you need to own an EV. For those of us who do, you all come across as small minded and threatened by something that shouldn’t threaten you.
It’s incredibly simple. For many families, EVs represent a superior 2nd or 3rd vehicle. They’re reliable, cheap to operate and powerful.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gilberjj

Moderators, would you please change the title of this thread to “EV hate group: We hate EVs and will spin any story to EV hate”
Let’s call it what it is.

Maybe I should just stop visiting this thread, but the amount of blind hate is baffling. None of you need to own an EV. For those of us who do, you all come across as small minded and threatened by something that shouldn’t threaten you.
It’s incredibly simple. For many families, EVs represent a superior 2nd or 3rd vehicle. They’re reliable, cheap to operate and powerful.

No ones twisting yr arm to be on here

[gilberjj]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

No ones twisting yr arm to be on here

You’re right about that!

That said, I’m passionate about cars and I have 7.5 years of EV ownership experience. I get it that EVs are NOT the best solution for everyone’s experience, but I also think that many of you are living out Green Eggs and Ham in real life.
EVs have become a political and environmental stance, but they’re just a car. A really fucking good technology that’s superior to ICE cars in many ways in my experience.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gilberjj

Moderators, would you please change the title of this thread to “EV hate group: We hate EVs and will spin any story to EV hate”

Seems like "Still want an EV?" has no restriction on posting positive articles on EV's assuming you have one?
There have been articles posted on the environmental damages of EV's.
There have been scientific articles posted showing the fallacy of anthropogenic global warming.
There have been articles showing the Grift of companies taking advantage of government EV programs.
There have been articles posted on the price of government pressure on the free market and the effect on consumers.
This is what is called push back on a stupid policy that will effect millions.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by gilberjj

You’re right about that!

That said, I’m passionate about cars and I have 7.5 years of EV ownership experience. I get it that EVs are NOT the best solution for everyone’s experience, but I also think that many of you are living out Green Eggs and Ham in real life.
EVs have become a political and environmental stance, but they’re just a car. A really fucking good technology that’s superior to ICE cars in many ways in my experience.

EV's are so superior that the only way to get people to buy them is massive subsidies and banning of ICE. If they were truly superior, they would win on the merits. If Green Insanity didn't exist, neither would EV's because ZERO money would have been invested in them.

But really, the intense dislike of EV's is driven by the Feds jamming them down our throats no matter what data point shows up showing just how bad the EV mandates will be.

[crAbb]

[Car-Addicted]

[RM7]

Bad photoshop is bad.

Parrots post crap they find on the internet.

[gblansten]

Since I have been driving my BigControlSystem for over a year I haven’t had to get gasoline. I finally had to pump gas again today (for my wife). Not a big deal. But, I don’t miss it. Really love home charging.

[Weather Man]

So, roughly 50,000 volunteer and regular fire departments across the USA X $34,000 for that one piece of equipment kinda adds up. And it was still easier to park it in the pond. Wonder who pays for the hazmat cleanup?

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by RM7

Bad photoshop is bad.

Parrots post crap they find on the internet.

It may be photoshopped but the fact remains this is a reality. ICE vehicles towing or carrying ICE generators to recharge broken down EV's is a thing. Diesel powered generators running charge stations is a thing.

The meme might not be great but the hypocrisy is.