[mr_z4mc1m_oz]

Very sad news. I'm not sure why ppl feel the need to drive at such excessive speeds. As safe as these modern vehicles might be they aren't invincible, nor are we.

[FC05]

Thought they gonna debut 8 series on 15th
Hope it doesn't affect by the accident

[raysspl]

Would've been great if the test driver didn't push very hard in public roads. Condolences.

[RobbyMack]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Sad but true. Probably because as a driver, it's your natural instinct to manoeuvre the car in such a manner to save yourself from direct impact/harm. Basic human instinct I suppose.

That's exactly it. Also why the second "safest" position for a rear seat passenger in the car is behind the driver. The safest being the middle seat assuming it has a proper shoulder seat belt.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by raysspl

Would've been great if the test driver didn't push very hard in public roads. Condolences.

The driver has bigger problems....


Google translator...

In a car accident near Bodenkirchen (Landshut district) a woman (53) died. Apparently the fatality was the mother of the driver's girlfriend (37). This lost after police on Saturday night control of the BMW and crashed into several trees. Any help came too late for the woman. The driver survived slightly injured.

The car was a so-called Erlkönig(testcar/camo'd), a car that is not yet available on the market. To protect against plagiarism, it is painted with an unusual pattern that obscures the shapes of the chassis. The BMW was packed with experimental equipment.

An accident report is now to clarify how it came to the crash. Hints indicate excessive speed. The Erlkönig was confiscated.

https: //www.bild.de/regional/muenchen ...

[Blindside_137]

So test drivers can bring family and friends out with them on drives? If so, probably not for much longer.

Feel terrible for the people involved.

[N & M]

My profound condolences to passenger’s loved ones and BMW. That is a sad development in an otherwise bright chapter for the brand.

[uniqueMR]

RIP

[MiamiFan13]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Wow,

Manslaughter and out of work.

And probably soon-to-be divorced.

Terrible. RIP.

[DCG]

This is going to happen when you have new technology that needs to be tested before it is introduced to the global marketplace, regardless if you're pushing the limits or not. You need to test new technology, if it malfunctions and if any tweaking is necessary to make it work right and what not. You need to take it in real-world situations as well.

Perhaps driver error, perhaps not? That's what being a test driver is all about. Better them than us, that's the risk that they take and sign up for.

I thank the BMW test drivers and riders for their efforts in making us feel safe and having saver vehicles to drive and ride in our daily lives. Because for us safety is a tremendous reason why we are brand loyal.

Perhaps something will be learned from this incident that they never would've picked up on otherwise.

[car_fan]

Originally Posted by MiamiFan13

And probably soon-to-be divorced.

Terrible. RIP.

it was his "girlfriends"mother. They apparently weren't married. That is a hell of a stigma for a yet to be released model - crazy exposure for BMW written all over that one.

[paliknight]

Originally Posted by DCG

This is going to happen when you have new technology that needs to be tested before it is introduced to the global marketplace, regardless if you're pushing the limits or not. You need to test new technology, if it malfunctions and if any tweaking is necessary to make it work right and what not. You need to take it in real-world situations as well.

Perhaps driver error, perhaps not? That's what being a test driver is all about. Better them than us, that's the risk that they take and sign up for.

I thank the BMW test drivers and riders for their efforts in making us feel safe and having saver vehicles to drive and ride in our daily lives. Because for us safety is a tremendous reason why we are brand loyal.

Perhaps something will be learned from this incident that they never would've picked up on otherwise.

Agreed but in this situation your statement doesn't really apply since the unaffiliated passenger died and the driver risking his life was unharmed. If it was him being injured or dying then I can understand where you're coming from.

[DCG]

Originally Posted by paliknight

Agreed but in this situation your statement doesn't really apply since the unaffiliated passenger died and the driver risking his life was unharmed. If it was him being injured or dying then I can understand where you're coming from.

Mother-in-laws , get it? No comment!

[vladberca]

It can be only a driver error.
Too high speed in an unknown area (with speed limit, for sure).

[sugaki]

Originally Posted by DCG

This is going to happen when you have new technology that needs to be tested before it is introduced to the global marketplace, regardless if you're pushing the limits or not. You need to test new technology, if it malfunctions and if any tweaking is necessary to make it work right and what not. You need to take it in real-world situations as well.

No this is clearly driver error. You don't test the limits on public roads for safety reasons and for controlling the test parameters. If on regular roads then they'd close it to the public, or do it on a closed circuit. This was more likely "real-world" testing, in other words every-day driving to rack up the miles to iron out or test any remaining pre-production quirks.

[advantage20]

I hope I'm wrong but it looks very much like trying to impress the passenger with excessive speed

[DCG]

Originally Posted by sugaki

No this is clearly driver error. You don't test the limits on public roads for safety reasons and for controlling the test parameters. If on regular roads then they'd close it to the public, or do it on a closed circuit. This was more likely "real-world" testing, in other words every-day driving to rack up the miles to iron out or test any remaining pre-production quirks.

Whatever! Driver error or technical error. Again, better them than us. That is the sacrifice you pay for the good of the driving population and that's what we as BMW enthusiasts pay a tremendous premium for, safety. Real world test driving is necessary. "Real world" meaning pushing the limits on public roads or just driving to the grocery store.

What does it matter anyway?

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

When it's your time to go, it's your time to go. Peace out!

[sugaki]

Originally Posted by DCG

Whatever! Driver error or technical error. Again, better them than us. That is the sacrifice you pay for the good of the driving population and that's what we as BMW enthusiasts pay a tremendous premium for, safety. Real world test driving is necessary. "Real world" meaning pushing the limits on public roads or just driving to the grocery store.

Seems rather selfish, considering an innocent passenger was killed. No, real-world doesn't mean pushing it to the performance limit on public roads, that's not how pre-production cars are tested.