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      08-22-2020, 07:10 AM   #1
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My Monster has arrived - Some questions

Hey all,

So I've recently received my Bmw M8 Competition Grand Coupe! It was Sapphire black but I have had it wrapped in Satin Black PPF while keeping the gloss black details (transparent PPF for protection on the gloss details). Pictures below.

I love it but I have some questions that I hope some of you are able to answer.

1. It has a rev limiter (up to 5k RPM). I've seen videos where it revs up between 6 and 7. Is this something that unlocks after the break in service at 2k km? Or is it an ECU tune that would need to be performed ? I'm in Europe.

2. I don't hear pops and bangs (or burbles). I know I have the OPF thanks to EU regulations but still. Am I missing something? Again I've seen it with pops and bangs when it revs between 6 and 7 in Europe. Again, is this unlocked during the first service or is it a tune ?

Thanks for all the help!

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Congrats on your new ride! Looks great!

Not sure if the European exhausts with particle filters killed all pops/crackles but in the US the only way to get any sound out of the exhaust you have to be in sport plus mode (Engine)
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Wow satin black looks really sharp!

A rev limiter in a BMW M is news to me.
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it matbe like the c-8 vette and is limited for first 500 miles????
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Hey all,

So I've recently received my Bmw M8 Competition Grand Coupe! It was Sapphire black but I have had it wrapped in Satin Black PPF while keeping the gloss black details (transparent PPF for protection on the gloss details). Pictures below.

I love it but I have some questions that I hope some of you are able to answer.

1. It has a rev limiter (up to 5k RPM). I've seen videos where it revs up between 6 and 7. Is this something that unlocks after the break in service at 2k km? Or is it an ECU tune that would need to be performed ? I'm in Europe.

2. I don't hear pops and bangs (or burbles). I know I have the OPF thanks to EU regulations but still. Am I missing something? Again I've seen it with pops and bangs when it revs between 6 and 7 in Europe. Again, is this unlocked during the first service or is it a tune ?

Thanks for all the help!
Well, that looks YUMMY This is the best way to achieve the matte look, too--my paint has been a nightmare and now I've had to wrap it anyway. Next time, I'll go Donny Gray or something and matte wrap that with PPF.

I don't recall ever hitting a 5K RPM limiter before break-in on any of my Ms but I also didn't push it. It's possible they've enforced something on newer models.

The burbles get progressively louder; pops and bangs vary from car to car and engine to engine--my M8 has great burbles, few pops and bangs. My M5 was a pop and bang machine.
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Wow satin black looks really sharp!
Agreed as the car is absolutely stunning! Enjoy the drive.

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Well, that looks YUMMY This is the best way to achieve the matte look, too--my paint has been a nightmare and now I've had to wrap it anyway. Next time, I'll go Donny Gray or something and matte wrap that with PPF.
I shied away from frozen aka matte as I didn't want to have to deal with the paint maintenance. However, I too have now learned the secret for the next car, i.e., a matte wrap via full PPF.
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Congratulations on your new monster. Looks awesome.
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Hey all,

So I've recently received my Bmw M8 Competition Grand Coupe! It was Sapphire black but I have had it wrapped in Satin Black PPF while keeping the gloss black details (transparent PPF for protection on the gloss details). Pictures below.

I love it but I have some questions that I hope some of you are able to answer.

1. It has a rev limiter (up to 5k RPM). I've seen videos where it revs up between 6 and 7. Is this something that unlocks after the break in service at 2k km? Or is it an ECU tune that would need to be performed ? I'm in Europe.

2. I don't hear pops and bangs (or burbles). I know I have the OPF thanks to EU regulations but still. Am I missing something? Again I've seen it with pops and bangs when it revs between 6 and 7 in Europe. Again, is this unlocked during the first service or is it a tune ?

Thanks for all the help!
Well, that looks YUMMY This is the best way to achieve the matte look, too--my paint has been a nightmare and now I've had to wrap it anyway. Next time, I'll go Donny Gray or something and matte wrap that with PPF.

I don't recall ever hitting a 5K RPM limiter before break-in on any of my Ms but I also didn't push it. It's possible they've enforced something on newer models.

The burbles get progressively louder; pops and bangs vary from car to car and engine to engine--my M8 has great burbles, few pops and bangs. My M5 was a pop and bang machine.
@Dex85 great looking car! Enjoy this beast!

limeypride what issues are you having with the paint? Let me know what to expect since I have the same paint on order.

I've seen that Donnie gray a few times and it does certainly look beautiful. I considered it too, I just dunno if the 8 GC is too much car for Donnie gray. Its perfect for the M5 tho.
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Congrats on your new ride! Looks great!

Not sure if the European exhausts with particle filters killed all pops/crackles but in the US the only way to get any sound out of the exhaust you have to be in sport plus mode (Engine)
Thanks!! Yeah we should have the pops/crackles in sport plus in EU as well I thought...

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Wow satin black looks really sharp!

A rev limiter in a BMW M is news to me.
Thanks! Yeah I find it weird but it just doesn't rev above 5k mark at the moment...

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it matbe like the c-8 vette and is limited for first 500 miles????
This is what I'm hoping and was looking to see if anyone could confirm!


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Well, that looks YUMMY This is the best way to achieve the matte look, too--my paint has been a nightmare and now I've had to wrap it anyway. Next time, I'll go Donny Gray or something and matte wrap that with PPF.

I don't recall ever hitting a 5K RPM limiter before break-in on any of my Ms but I also didn't push it. It's possible they've enforced something on newer models.

The burbles get progressively louder; pops and bangs vary from car to car and engine to engine--my M8 has great burbles, few pops and bangs. My M5 was a pop and bang machine.
Thanks! I love the look. I don't hear pops and bangs at the moment, was hoping for some confirmation that it gets better after the break in service. Also hoping this rev limiter thing is just untill the first service.

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Agreed as the car is absolutely stunning! Enjoy the drive.



I shied away from frozen aka matte as I didn't want to have to deal with the paint maintenance. However, I too have now learned the secret for the next car, i.e., a matte wrap via full PPF.

Thanks! Yeah Satin black looks amazing!


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Congratulations on your new monster. Looks awesome.
Thanks! I love it!

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@Dex85 great looking car! Enjoy this beast!

limeypride what issues are you having with the paint? Let me know what to expect since I have the same paint on order.

I've seen that Donnie gray a few times and it does certainly look beautiful. I considered it too, I just dunno if the 8 GC is too much car for Donnie gray. Its perfect for the M5 tho.

Thanks! Loving the color.


Now just hoping for some more feedback regarding if anyone else is noticing a rev limiter of 5k rpm, and very rare pops and bangs? I'm kinda hoping both of these issues are pre break in service "features".
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@Dex85 great looking car! Enjoy this beast!

limeypride what issues are you having with the paint? Let me know what to expect since I have the same paint on order.

I've seen that Donnie gray a few times and it does certainly look beautiful. I considered it too, I just dunno if the 8 GC is too much car for Donnie gray. Its perfect for the M5 tho.
At this point, I'd suggest you consider a standard metallic color and then spend the saved money on a PPF matte wrap. Matte wrapping Donington results in something very close to frozen dark silver.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...19&postcount=1

As for the why: I intended to wrap it in PPF week one--COVID ended any chances of that. After 2 months, the front has been sprayed by WA stones and it cannot be repaired. No shop--all specialists--would even take the job on. I read up on the process and understand why now. One autosalon suggested I have some paint made up, he'll use it to cover the chips as best he can, buff it (which eliminates the matte effect and introduces sheen) and then put a matte wrap PPF on top of the entire front end... it took a little while but we found a matte wrap that matched the natural matte of the paint. This is done now and the end result is meh--better than it was but nowhere close to gone.

I had the front end, wing mirrors and side skirts wrapped since that was where the stone chips were occurring.

Wrapping the entire car is roughly $7,000. The custom paint is $5,000. Then you'll need to add transparent PPF to protect it so plus another $7,000.

No more factory matte for me.
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@Dex85 great looking car! Enjoy this beast!

limeypride what issues are you having with the paint? Let me know what to expect since I have the same paint on order.

I've seen that Donnie gray a few times and it does certainly look beautiful. I considered it too, I just dunno if the 8 GC is too much car for Donnie gray. Its perfect for the M5 tho.
At this point, I'd suggest you consider a standard metallic color and then spend the saved money on a PPF matte wrap. Matte wrapping Donington results in something very close to frozen dark silver.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...38;postcount=1

As for the why: I intended to wrap it in PPF week one--COVID ended any chances of that. After 2 months, the front has been sprayed by WA stones and it cannot be repaired. No shop--all specialists--would even take the job on. I read up on the process and understand why now. One autosalon suggested I have some paint made up, he'll use it to cover the chips as best he can, buff it (which eliminates the matte effect and introduces sheen) and then put a matte wrap PPF on top of the entire front end... it took a little while but we found a matte wrap that matched the natural matte of the paint. This is done now and the end result is meh--better than it was but nowhere close to gone.

I had the front end, wing mirrors and side skirts wrapped since that was where the stone chips were occurring.

Wrapping the entire car is roughly $7,000. The custom paint is $5,000. Then you'll need to add transparent PPF to protect it so plus another $7,000.

No more factory matte for me.
Wow that sounds scary. But if u had wrapped it immediately then this wouldn't have been an issue right? If so then I'll keep the paint and just plan to wrap same day I receive car. If not then I'll try to change to Donnie gray.

I'll check with my dealer to see if I can change paint since car hasn't gone into production yet. Anyone know what response I might receive from the dealer regarding that?
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@Dex85 great looking car! Enjoy this beast!

limeypride what issues are you having with the paint? Let me know what to expect since I have the same paint on order.

I've seen that Donnie gray a few times and it does certainly look beautiful. I considered it too, I just dunno if the 8 GC is too much car for Donnie gray. Its perfect for the M5 tho.
At this point, I'd suggest you consider a standard metallic color and then spend the saved money on a PPF matte wrap. Matte wrapping Donington results in something very close to frozen dark silver.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...38;postcount=1

As for the why: I intended to wrap it in PPF week one--COVID ended any chances of that. After 2 months, the front has been sprayed by WA stones and it cannot be repaired. No shop--all specialists--would even take the job on. I read up on the process and understand why now. One autosalon suggested I have some paint made up, he'll use it to cover the chips as best he can, buff it (which eliminates the matte effect and introduces sheen) and then put a matte wrap PPF on top of the entire front end... it took a little while but we found a matte wrap that matched the natural matte of the paint. This is done now and the end result is meh--better than it was but nowhere close to gone.

I had the front end, wing mirrors and side skirts wrapped since that was where the stone chips were occurring.

Wrapping the entire car is roughly $7,000. The custom paint is $5,000. Then you'll need to add transparent PPF to protect it so plus another $7,000.

No more factory matte for me.
Wow that sounds scary. But if u had wrapped it immediately then this wouldn't have been an issue right? If so then I'll keep the paint and just plan to wrap same day I receive car. If not then I'll try to change to Donnie gray.

I'll check with my dealer to see if I can change paint since car hasn't gone into production yet. Anyone know what response I might receive from the dealer regarding that?
I hope so. I haven't had the PPF for long so I don't know how effective it is from firsthand experience. If the additional money doesn't concern you (and were it my pending order, it might not concern me either) and you wrap it immediately then, yes, I think/hope you'll be good.
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@Dex85 great looking car! Enjoy this beast!

limeypride what issues are you having with the paint? Let me know what to expect since I have the same paint on order.

I've seen that Donnie gray a few times and it does certainly look beautiful. I considered it too, I just dunno if the 8 GC is too much car for Donnie gray. Its perfect for the M5 tho.
At this point, I'd suggest you consider a standard metallic color and then spend the saved money on a PPF matte wrap. Matte wrapping Donington results in something very close to frozen dark silver.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...38;postcount=1

As for the why: I intended to wrap it in PPF week one--COVID ended any chances of that. After 2 months, the front has been sprayed by WA stones and it cannot be repaired. No shop--all specialists--would even take the job on. I read up on the process and understand why now. One autosalon suggested I have some paint made up, he'll use it to cover the chips as best he can, buff it (which eliminates the matte effect and introduces sheen) and then put a matte wrap PPF on top of the entire front end... it took a little while but we found a matte wrap that matched the natural matte of the paint. This is done now and the end result is meh--better than it was but nowhere close to gone.

I had the front end, wing mirrors and side skirts wrapped since that was where the stone chips were occurring.

Wrapping the entire car is roughly $7,000. The custom paint is $5,000. Then you'll need to add transparent PPF to protect it so plus another $7,000.

No more factory matte for me.
Wow that sounds scary. But if u had wrapped it immediately then this wouldn't have been an issue right? If so then I'll keep the paint and just plan to wrap same day I receive car. If not then I'll try to change to Donnie gray.

I'll check with my dealer to see if I can change paint since car hasn't gone into production yet. Anyone know what response I might receive from the dealer regarding that?
I hope so. I haven't had the PPF for long so I don't know how effective it is from firsthand experience. If the additional money doesn't concern you (and were my pending order, it might not concern me one bit) and you wrap it immediately then, yes, I think/hope you'll be good.
Ok, that's what I'll do then. Thanks.

Sorry about your chipped paint. I wonder if BMW has considered factory added PPF on frozen paints. Yes additional cost for them but for the additional $5500 and customer experience with those paints, they need to consider taking some sort of action. Even if it cost a little bit more.
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I hope so. I haven't had the PPF for long so I don't know how effective it is from firsthand experience. If the additional money doesn't concern you (and were my pending order, it might not concern me one bit) and you wrap it immediately then, yes, I think/hope you'll be good.
From experience, PPF wrap protects the paint against stone chips. That's why I wrapped mine on day one. The parts that "don't look wrapped" on my car are wrapped in transparent PPF (mirrors, lights, roof, and the glossy bumpers). I also had transparent PPF done on the door sil (The shiny M8 competition logos on entry) and a few areas inside (the shiny and carbon area around the mid console) just to be on the safe side (I know it might seem overkill lol). I had my i8 wrapped for two years and it looks as good as new when the wrap was removed.
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Also... I wouldn't add transparent PPF on top of the color PPF (if thats what you ment?). You could spend that money on rewrapping the parts that take stone chip damage when needed imo. So from experience I would go one layer of PPF in total, and replace the damaged PPF if you ever need to.
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Also... I wouldn't add transparent PPF on top of the color PPF (if thats what you ment?). You could spend that money on rewrapping the parts that take stone chip damage when needed imo. So from experience I would go one layer of PPF in total, and replace the damaged PPF if you ever need to.
Nope, I didn't mean that. I meant add transparent PPF if the car's native paint is already matte.
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Does PPF require full disassembly of external panels?
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Nope, I didn't mean that. I meant add transparent PPF if the car's native paint is already matte.
Gotcha!
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Does PPF require full disassembly of external panels?
I do not believe so for my M8.
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While black color is not one of my favorites, your car looks stunning. Congratulations!
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I had the front end, wing mirrors and side skirts wrapped since that was where the stone chips were occurring.

Wrapping the entire car is roughly $7,000. The custom paint is $5,000. Then you'll need to add transparent PPF to protect it so plus another $7,000.

No more factory matte for me.
My detailer had 3 packages for PPF and I chose the middle of the road vs the 3rd option which was the entire car. Thus, I have the entire front-end wrapped, mirrors, A-pillars, the rocker panel (aka side skirts) and added the roof as a custom option. Reason for the roof is my outgoing Lexus had some rock chips in it right where the roof line met the front windshield. Thus, didn't want to take any chances with the M850i.

Totally agree on the pricing, i.e., $5K option from BMW for frozen and then add another $5K to $7K in stealth PPF on top of that vs just standard paint and a $7K full PPF matte wrap. Definitely my destiny for the next car.
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I believe that will likely come down to the detailer used to apply the PPF. The guy I used, i.e., Bulldog Detail (and would highly recommend for anybody in the Phoenix area) is completely anal about seams so he will disassemble what is needed in order to achieve that goal. Thus, for the M850i front-end the bumper was disassembled (they wrap the headlights individually) and there is not a single seam in sight.
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