[Rob_G77]

Originally Posted by Tenac

Disclaimer: Before I get everyone upset at me. I enjoy true driving cars engagement and power and love my M8. For those of you who own the 840i I'm not going after you or your choice I simply cannot understand the placement or want of this vehicle overall.

It was never available in Canada. I wonder what other markets it is absent from?

Rob

[Seaford]

Originally Posted by tsbrown

Given the price of petrol I’m not surprised. Oh and if it makes any of the 840i crowd feel any better, the Jeff Koons 8GC at BMW Welt is an 840i, not M850i like the 10(?) originals that were sold at 350k each. Will have to post the picture of it when I get a chance. Real paint, not a wrap.

I don’t think the ‘840 crowd’ need to ‘feel better’…we are pretty happy thank you.

After all, the 840 is the thinking man’s 8 Series, not least those without any insecurity about the size of their man part…

[tsbrown]

Originally Posted by Seaford

I don’t think the ‘840 crowd’ need to ‘feel better’…we are pretty happy thank you.

After all, the 840 is the thinking man’s 8 Series, not least those without any insecurity about the size of their man part…

Wasn’t suggesting anything otherwise. Also why I am considering one myself.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by Seaford

After all, the 840 is the thinking man’s 8 Series, not least those without any insecurity about the size of their man part…

OOHHH NOOOO lol way to start the liter measuring topic...

[Avallon]

Originally Posted by Seaford

I don’t think the ‘840 crowd’ need to ‘feel better’…we are pretty happy thank you.

After all, the 840 is the thinking man’s 8 Series, not least those without any insecurity about the size of their man part…

To be fair, given a choice I would have loved an M850i or M8...

[ourlee]

“I don’t want to insult you but I’m going to insult you”

[Seaford]

Originally Posted by ourlee

“I don’t want to insult you but I’m going to insult you”

That is the phrase I have been searching for.

Thank you.

[ourlee]

Lol all for fun.

[snareman]

I have the LCI with the larger screen and it seems fine to me. It's not like you get a ton of use out of the extra space, but it doesn't seem unnecessarily large to me. An extra diagonal 2" isn't really enough space to do much extra with other than get some larger map areas. Its not like you can get an extra column of info on it and AA and Carplay designers don't design for things like that. It's just the normal stuff, just a little bigger.

[Tenac]

Originally Posted by snareman

I have the LCI with the larger screen and it seems fine to me. It's not like you get a ton of use out of the extra space, but it doesn't seem unnecessarily large to me. An extra diagonal 2" isn't really enough space to do much extra with other than get some larger map areas. Its not like you can get an extra column of info on it and AA and Carplay designers don't design for things like that. It's just the normal stuff, just a little bigger.

If you get a chance sit in one older model and you will see exactly right away it is just larger font to fill the screen. It's kinda sad because with the extra inch of room you could see more graph space or more one line text but it doesn't just zoomed in. I confirmed this side by side with mine same home screen..... This would be great for those older eyes and people who need the larger font though for sure...

[Seaford]

I’ve just reread the first post.

I have no idea why I bothered.

[Beemer5to3]

Originally Posted by Seaford

I’ve just reread the first post.

I have no idea why I bothered.

What, buying a poor man’s 8 series??

[Buddym850icoupe]

Originally Posted by Say My Name

I don’t agree with anything you said except maybe that it’s not as fast as the X3 M40i since I have no idea, but I’m curious how many miles the 840 had on it. Mine was not all that impressive power wise until I got over 1500 miles.

I could’ve had an M8 or an 850, but after testing all 3, actually preferred the 840 for a lot of reasons. For me the 840 handles better than either of the big engine 8s and I’ve done all kinds of driving in it. Also I commute in it so I prefer the better gas mileage and reliability of the B58.

Also I love the new screen. I think it looks far more integrated into the dash due to the extreme angles on the top corners of the old one and the new one is visually a much better overall shape.

My steering is spot on as are my brakes, heated up or not. And we’ve owned some sports cars and some muscle cars with high end brakes so it’s not that I don’t know handling or braking.

I honestly wonder if something was severely wrong with the 840 you drove because your experience sounds nothing like my almost 10 months with my 840.

As for the 240 or 440…the 240 looks like a Chevy and I can’t stand the buck teeth on the 4 series. Whereas, my 840 is quintessentially BMW and is gorgeous from all angles.

But, as someone said, to each his/her own…

The only thing I will say is that the 840 def does not handle better in any way or form compared to the m850 or the m8 comp. The m8 considering its size and weight handles amazingly well. The m850 does as well but to a much lesser extent. The numb and overly light steering on the m850 is kind of reminiscent of the 840 but not quite. I agree that the m440 is ugly but I think the point is that you get more car for 25k less. The m240ix is not ugly imo. The new m2 is ugly obviously. But the main point of the original post is that the overall placement of the car makes no sense. In the states, u can get a loaded m4 comp xdrive for less money. Sure the 8 series is a much better looking car but the m4c xdrive is just a better car overall. The 8 series is worth it when u get a v8.

[Beemer5to3]

Originally Posted by Buddym850icoupe

The only thing I will say is that the 840 def does not handle better in any way or form compared to the m850 or the m8 comp. The m8 considering its size and weight handles amazingly well. The m850 does as well but to a much lesser extent. The numb and overly light steering on the m850 is kind of reminiscent of the 840 but not quite. I agree that the m440 is ugly but I think the point is that you get more car for 25k less. The m240ix is not ugly imo. The new m2 is ugly obviously. But the main point of the original post is that the overall placement of the car makes no sense. In the states, u can get a loaded m4 comp xdrive for less money. Sure the 8 series is a much better looking car but the m4c xdrive is just a better car overall. The 8 series is worth it when u get a v8.

That M440 point just isn’t right at all - at least in the UK. You can easily get 20% off list price of any 8 series in the UK, some broker sites quoting 25% off, whereas you’d get maybe 7/8% of an M440i, and performance aside, the 8 series is a lot more car than the 4 series. I would be very surprised if you could get a fully optioned M4 for less than an 840i

[Seaford]

Originally Posted by Beemer5to3

What, buying a poor man’s 8 series??

I think you meant ‘the thinking man’s 8 Series’.

[TakeshiJin]

Originally Posted by Tenac

Disclaimer: Before I get everyone upset at me. I enjoy true driving cars engagement and power and love my M8. For those of you who own the 840i I'm not going after you or your choice I simply cannot understand the placement or want of this vehicle overall. IMO


So I've been lucky enough to have a 840i Coupe over the weekend. It's loaded 2023 all the nice bells and whistles. I was able to take it up to my canyon drive and around for a few long stints and city driving. I put a few hundred on it and filled it up about twice.

Here is where my thoughts start to come in, I'll just list them for ease of read.

1. Why did they make this car? I think they were simply trying to produce the cheapest 8 series possible with zero expectations.

2. Handles like a boat, really has more body role than the X3 M40i and is slower.

3. That new larger touch screen looks like someone just turned the resolution to 150%. That is even after I looked to adjust font size etc.

4. The B58 engine is amazing and is tuned for good power delivery in this car, but it makes it feel fake. I guess all cars must have that small engine version.

5. Listen I know some might say well I bought it for XXXX reasons.... They simply do not exist, I think about having a M240i for half the cost would have been killer compared to this boat. Or the new M2. I can't even justify this car due to cost because there are so many other options out there. Heck a used M850i if the style was the only thing you wanted.

6. Steering feels like its not connected to the car at all. It is loose and has not resistance at all, add that to the large amount of body roll and its a school bus.

7. Braking is very weak for the heft of this ride as well. They heat soak very quickly. I know they didn't build this for a track car but I'm talking a slightly spirited drive out in the rural areas.

There are a few other things I'm not a huge fan of but not worth really going over it. And listen I know it this won't be a positive post, but I just have to be honest. I think about the overall cost of what you get here: 93k start and in the M440i you get the same equipment start at 63k and in such a better overall vehicle. Forget all the sports car stuff its just an overall better equipped ride in the M440i over the 840i.

Things I liked;

1. Fuel mileage was good for what you have for sure.

2. The overall looks of it are spot on with the blacked out package.

I actually REALLY REALLY Agree with you on the handling especially on the 840i GC RWD version. The car was plane fat it did not want to rotate.

I drove the M850i while it felt stiff; the car was definitely rotating in corners more (must be the rear steer system working it's magic).

As for the reason why you would get an 840i. You want those awesome looks, laser lights, sleek side profile, Merino Leather, and Bowers & Wilkins sound system. A similar spec M440i would be 25-30k less.

When you buying the 8 you expect those luxury's over the lower series at minimum. Not everyone needs an V8. Some just want the luxury with a legendary reliability and fuel economy of the B58!

[Seaford]

Originally Posted by Buddym850icoupe

The only thing I will say is that the 840 def does not handle better in any way or form compared to the m850 or the m8 comp. The m8 considering its size and weight handles amazingly well. The m850 does as well but to a much lesser extent. The numb and overly light steering on the m850 is kind of reminiscent of the 840 but not quite. I agree that the m440 is ugly but I think the point is that you get more car for 25k less. The m240ix is not ugly imo. The new m2 is ugly obviously. But the main point of the original post is that the overall placement of the car makes no sense. In the states, u can get a loaded m4 comp xdrive for less money. Sure the 8 series is a much better looking car but the m4c xdrive is just a better car overall. The 8 series is worth it when u get a v8.

To look at it from a different perspective the 840 and V8s are different cars. The 840 is a brilliant day to day driver (especially the GC) and the V8s are a much more hard core offering, albeit in a relatively soft manner in that market segment.

As an aside, why would anyone want a V8 GC? Seems a bit of a contradiction??

[Avallon]

Originally Posted by Seaford

To look at it from a different perspective the 840 and V8s are different cars. The 840 is a brilliant day to day driver (especially the GC) and the V8s are a much more hard core offering, albeit in a relatively soft manner in that market segment.

As an aside, why would anyone want a V8 GC? Seems a bit of a contradiction??

Sub 4s 0-60 and that sound....

(and for some - bragging rights)

[Carlito_UK]

I test drove an 840i initially and was suitably impressed by the car. It felt like a BMW should. Drove the M8 a couple.of weeks later and my head was turned. You can't compare the two, if an 840i is a purchase of the mind the M8 is a purchase of the heart.

Not sure where the hate comes for the 2 series, wife has a 220i as a daily and its a pretty solid car. Its another car I felt went back to the traditional BMW feel when you drive it. But yiu cant compare the two, the 840i was genuinely a lovely car to drive but I ways knew that if an M8 or 850i passed me on the road Inwould have regretted purchasing one.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by snareman

I have the LCI with the larger screen and it seems fine to me. It's not like you get a ton of use out of the extra space, but it doesn't seem unnecessarily large to me. An extra diagonal 2" isn't really enough space to do much extra with other than get some larger map areas. Its not like you can get an extra column of info on it and AA and Carplay designers don't design for things like that. It's just the normal stuff, just a little bigger.

I had a 24 840i coupe loaner last week, too. We have a X7 40i so I like the engine but I feel it’s too little for the 8 series. The car felt underpowered.

The screen is definitely massive. Again, we have the 12.3 in our X7 and it’s great! However, I feel it’s integrated better in the X7 due to the angle and the larger dash. The one in the 840 just seems really upright and it makes it seem larger than it is. I will say I actually just bought a 12.3 LCI screen and am putting it in my 22 as the 10.25 inch feels small coming from my AMG GT (which also had a 12.3 screen) and the X7. It’s great to have if you use CarPlay.

[Beemer5to3]

Originally Posted by Seaford

I think you meant ‘the thinking man’s 8 Series’.

Haha that’s the one! I’ve never once thought I wanted any more

[brlawyer]

Originally Posted by Seaford

I don’t think the ‘840 crowd’ need to ‘feel better’…we are pretty happy thank you.

After all, the 840 is the thinking man’s 8 Series, not least those without any insecurity about the size of their man part…

I could not be happier with my 840d - absolutely monstrous performance with an equally monstrous mileage (more than 1100km on a single tank).

The only thing that pisses me off is the eternal road construction mess right in front of my house, which makes it almost impossible for me to back out of my small garage with the 840d.