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      11-12-2022, 06:50 PM   #1
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Currently enjoying my Mustang but looking to upgrade to a BMW M8C. Have loved it since it came out and im ready to leave behind the American muscle for the German power.

Any recommendations on buying you guys have for me? Things to look for? Specific to BMW M? I am looking to buy a used M8 competition coupe and have found plenty I like. Price point seems solid for them (110-120K.)

I am looking for as low miles as possible and a trusted seller! Any advice is appreciated before I make the splurge...
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      11-13-2022, 12:15 AM   #2
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In general, M's are bad ass…what more can we tell you? Any specific questions?
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      11-13-2022, 12:59 AM   #3
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I can't think of anything super M specific that you would look for that you wouldn't just look for in general on a car you are buying. Just all the standard considerations.
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Carbon brakes would be one I'd have to say yes to...
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The M8 and M8 Comp is a beast.
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I second the carbon ceramic breaks. If dirty wheels drive you crazy, then ccb is a must. My next ride WILL have them. Squeal risk and all.

And why not look into M5C? It will appease your exhaust note needs a bit more than M8C. The M5C sounds like a jet engine when rolling through the 'hood.
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I second the carbon ceramic breaks. If dirty wheels drive you crazy, then ccb is a must. My next ride WILL have them. Squeal risk and all.

And why not look into M5C? It will appease your exhaust note needs a bit more than M8C. The M5C sounds like a jet engine when rolling through the 'hood.
The M5C looks awesome but I just like the look of the M8 so much more. Considering the pricing is not crazy different, I am leaning toward the 8 (also love coupes)

after reading more in the thread I am debating if buying a used 2020 is worth it or buying a new 2023 with the facelift. they look amazing and I could get it specced how I want...just dont want to get crushed on depreciation which I most likely will
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In general, M's are bad ass…what more can we tell you? Any specific questions?
Like I mentioned on the OP I am looking for as low miles as possible, but how many miles is too many on a used M? or to rephrase, how many miles until you start to stay away because maintenance will get worse and worse...

I am debating a new vs. used for this reason....I figure in my head its around the 30,000 mile mark, but perhaps I am way off
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In general, M's are bad ass…what more can we tell you? Any specific questions?
Seems a lot of people lease on this forum...is there a specific reason people lease these over buy? I always looked at leases as mostly a waste of money but I might be seeing it wrong (these cars cost no matter how you slice it)
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Definitely CCB’s is a must. I finances mine. On leasing to each their own. Leasing will be $200 to $400 cheaper per month, this is if you actually put a down payment down. You will always have a car payment, your car will always be under warranty and you can get a new car every two to four years.
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The M5C looks awesome but I just like the look of the M8 so much more. Considering the pricing is not crazy different, I am leaning toward the 8 (also love coupes)

after reading more in the thread I am debating if buying a used 2020 is worth it or buying a new 2023 with the facelift. they look amazing and I could get it specced how I want...just dont want to get crushed on depreciation which I most likely will
The facelift (LCI in BMW terms) seems to be the most minimal changes they've ever made on an LCI model so you're not missing much other than the 2" larger iDrive screen. It's a consideration between the cost of new vs used, being able to find a used spec that you like vs ordering one to your spec and being able have it now (used) vs trying to find a dealer with an allocation and then waiting for the build process which has been quite painful for some of us here. 262 days in my case, although I am one of the outliers.

And if you like coupes as I do, I say get one now before BMW and other manufacturers stop making them all together as seems to be the direction of the car world.

Everyone says to get the CCB. I decided to put that $8,000 elsewhere, but if money is no object in that regard then have at them. Personally I love the splash of color my red calipers give the car.
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Seems a lot of people lease on this forum...is there a specific reason people lease these over buy? I always looked at leases as mostly a waste of money but I might be seeing it wrong (these cars cost no matter how you slice it)
I always used to lease, but I've bought my last few and with paying the loan progressively lower each time on progressively more expensive cars it's kind of the gift that keeps on giving. The payment on my M8 is somewhere around $250/month. Just depends on your finances and monthly output tolerances.
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The facelift (LCI in BMW terms) seems to be the most minimal changes they've ever made on an LCI model so you're not missing much other than the 2" larger iDrive screen. It's a consideration between the cost of new vs used, being able to find a used spec that you like vs ordering one to your spec and being able have it now (used) vs trying to find a dealer with an allocation and then waiting for the build process which has been quite painful for some of us here. 262 days in my case, although I am one of the outliers.

And if you like coupes as I do, I say get one now before BMW and other manufacturers stop making them all together as seems to be the direction of the car world.


Everyone says to get the CCB. I decided to put that $8,000 elsewhere, but if money is no object in that regard then have at them. Personally I love the splash of color my red calipers give the car.
I agree, I like the red caliper contrast on mine without CCB. But as I've said before. If given the chance to build my M8, I would add the CCB and then powder coat the calipers a different color than that gold. I'm still deciding to add them after the fact now to the tune of $12K. If you order them; your car will be valued more with than without, so it's not as though you just threw your $$$ away on something.
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The facelift (LCI in BMW terms) seems to be the most minimal changes they've ever made on an LCI model so you're not missing much other than the 2" larger iDrive screen. It's a consideration between the cost of new vs used, being able to find a used spec that you like vs ordering one to your spec and being able have it now (used) vs trying to find a dealer with an allocation and then waiting for the build process which has been quite painful for some of us here. 262 days in my case, although I am one of the outliers.

And if you like coupes as I do, I say get one now before BMW and other manufacturers stop making them all together as seems to be the direction of the car world.

Everyone says to get the CCB. I decided to put that $8,000 elsewhere, but if money is no object in that regard then have at them. Personally I love the splash of color my red calipers give the car.
Good info, will probably keep on path and find the right used one vs. ordering a new one. Now the great debate of buying a used 2020 model or leasing a new one. I have only ever bought my cars, so to be honest I am a rookie when it comes to leasing (need to study up on money factor, residual etc.)
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I always used to lease, but I've bought my last few and with paying the loan progressively lower each time on progressively more expensive cars it's kind of the gift that keeps on giving. The payment on my M8 is somewhere around $250/month. Just depends on your finances and monthly output tolerances.
Are you still able to move in and out of cars pretty freely every couple of years? Thats what I do now, but the cars I have now are not in the same price range as an M8. So curious how that all spills over on the next car, or if you just take a small hit as the costs of doing business
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Seems a lot of people lease on this forum...is there a specific reason people lease these over buy? I always looked at leases as mostly a waste of money but I might be seeing it wrong (these cars cost no matter how you slice it)
You're seeing a lot of us that leased our cars back at the beginning because BMW couldn't get rid of them. Many received steep discounts, had some extra flagship/trunk cash applied, etc., so even with the poor residual, you ended up with an attractive payment.

I got my 2020 new at the end of 2020 after it was sitting in a showroom for 14 months... I "paid" $106k with something like a $72k residual... my payment was $1154/month including taxes and let BMW carry the risk in the middle of a pandemic. I was still able to cash in on my equity when I traded it in 18 months later too.

This is a different time... I doubt as many would consider a lease now.
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You're seeing a lot of us that leased our cars back at the beginning because BMW couldn't get rid of them. Many received steep discounts, had some extra flagship/trunk cash applied, etc., so even with the poor residual, you ended up with an attractive payment.

I got my 2020 new at the end of 2020 after it was sitting in a showroom for 14 months... I "paid" $106k with something like a $72k residual... my payment was $1154/month including taxes and let BMW carry the risk in the middle of a pandemic. I was still able to cash in on my equity when I traded it in 18 months later too.

This is a different time... I doubt as many would consider a lease now.
makes sense. Great deal you got. I am gonna keep looking for the right deal.
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Are you still able to move in and out of cars pretty freely every couple of years? Thats what I do now, but the cars I have now are not in the same price range as an M8. So curious how that all spills over on the next car, or if you just take a small hit as the costs of doing business
I have been yes. This is my first car in this range as well. The sale of my M4 in the crazy used car market helped out a lot as did a bunch of extra work. A trade in on this should be a huge tax advantage next time around, I'm thinking enough that trying to sell it private party isn't going to get me enough extra to outweigh the tax advantage, especially for the hassle of selling it privately.
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It's already been proven that CCB are way more expensive than normal steels. I've had several M's to 50k miles without them needing brakes. Waste of money IMHO.
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And why not look into M5C? It will appease your exhaust note needs a bit more than M8C. The M5C sounds like a jet engine when rolling through the 'hood.
I'm confused by this comment, they are the exact same car, why would it sound completely different?
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