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      05-19-2021, 12:36 PM   #23
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Funny how the E46 M3 was 3k pounds and here the modern day "CSL" is 1K pounds heavier. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Personally, anything BMW puts the CSL badge on today would be a complete slap in the face to the E9 and the E46. If any car should get it it seems the obvious choice would be the M2, but what do I know.
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Not a huge fan of the rear wing, but that exhaust note has my attention.

If Merc can offer a $180K AMG GT why shouldn't BMW throw their hat in the ring?

All you people complaining should be grateful R&D cash is still getting pumped into ICE vehicles.
Wouldn't say that apples to apples as usually the Merc sales, not so much for the bimmer.
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BMW hasn't even confirmed this car exists and yet people are complaining. BMW fans really are the biggest bunch of whiners in the car community...
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cool they are going through the exercise with this. Im sure there would be a market
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Is this an M4 Gran Coupe?
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BMW hasn't even confirmed this car exists and yet people are complaining. BMW fans really are the biggest bunch of whiners in the car community...
well in that case, the headline shouldnt read CSL
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BMW have tapped into this by mirroring typical BMW dynamics and steering communication within the new UKL cars.
You mean massive body roll, a steering system that is not connected to the front wheels, and the engine note played through the speaker system?!?!?!?!
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cool they are going through the exercise with this. Im sure there would be a market
Considering it's the flagship I think it sets the bar quite nicely
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BMW hasn't even confirmed this car exists and yet people are complaining.

BMW fans really are the biggest bunch of whiners in the car community...
Well in that case, the headline shouldnt read CSL
You have a valid point

Dude above clearly hasn't been on the Mercedes forums
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Is this an M4 Gran Coupe?
It's the i4 M50.
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Is this an M4 Gran Coupe?
It's the i4 M50.
It's going to have M mirrors? That's what made me think M4 Gran Coupe.
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Is this an M4 Gran Coupe?
Most likely the M50i. BMW is starting to put more M-specific parts (like M mirrors) on their M-Performance cars based on the recent instagram photo a dealer posted.
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Making the wing retractable would make this vehicle much more attractive.
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well in that case, the headline shouldnt read CSL
It's a speculative title for christs sake! It's completely based on rumours and spy-shots. Do you seriously think this is an official post from BMW? Damn...
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It's going to have M mirrors? That's what made me think M4 Gran Coupe.
It's the first M Performance car from BMW to have the M mirrors. That's why it can be confusing. It's not a choice I agree with personally.
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It's the first M Performance car from BMW to have the M mirrors. That's why it can be confusing. It's not a choice I agree with personally.
Wow, yeah, that is very off-putting. Further muddying the M brand.
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Wow, yeah, that is very off-putting. Further muddying the M brand.
I agree. Luckily it's not a huge deal. Especially when considering that BMW could have just called the i4 M50 the i4M as it pretty much is an M car at this point when considering the HP and the class it's in.
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It's going to have M mirrors? That's what made me think M4 Gran Coupe.
It's the first M Performance car from BMW to have the M mirrors. That's why it can be confusing. It's not a choice I agree with personally.
It isn't but hasn't been done in a long time (M Technic mirrors were even optional on ///M cars for a while).
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It's isn't but hasn't been done in a long time (M Technic mirrors were even optional on ///M cars for a while).
Oh I never knew that. Thanks for telling me!
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Funny how the E46 M3 was 3k pounds and here the modern day "CSL" is 1K pounds heavier. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Personally, anything BMW puts the CSL badge on today would be a complete slap in the face to the E9 and the E46. If any car should get it it seems the obvious choice would be the M2, but what do I know.
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well in that case, the headline shouldnt read CSL
M8 is misleading as well.
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An M8CSL powered by a 600+hp S58 with a RWD DCT transaxle drivetrain would definitely catch my attention .
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Allow me to address the elephant in the room aka .... this model M8...... WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THAT CRUMBY LITTLE WING GOING TO OFFER ON SUCH A HEAVY ASS OF A CAR!???

As a track rat, Certified driving instructor ..I can tell you this, I see this screaming for
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