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      05-18-2019, 08:12 AM   #67
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Will probably be the same as the coupe's...

Which would be VERY disappointing for such an expensive sedan. The A7, CLS, AMG GT, and Panamera all have more special interior aesthetics.
You probably do not mean special as unique (the CLS carries over the E-Class interior, the AMG GT4 too except the center console, the A7 carries over the A6's interior...) but as distinctly classy/elegant, which is debatable.

In terms of esthetics, the 8er interior does have a classical, sober, understated elegance that hits, I think, a great balance between sporty and classy. But it certainly doesn't live quite up to its full potential as previewed by the 2017 Concept which, though very similar, walked this fine line to perfection with just a few modifications (more slanted and flowing center stack/center console, flush storage compartment, more precious air vents, more cohesive color scheme). The Merc interiors are more baroque and extravagant, bolder but maybe more vulgar on some level, I guess it comes down to personal taste.

In terms of objective standards of quality fit and finish and premium feel, all these competitors seem pretty much neck and neck.

In terms of ergonomics, I'm so glad BMW hasn't (yet?) succumbed to Audi's aberrant all-digital controls and still preserves the traditional feel of real buttons. The best solution for the future seems to be clean black tactile surfaces with icons only lighting up when ignition is on (a la Porsche), yet with ridges and grooves allowing blind button-like operation (a la BMW), and haptic feedback on every possible control surface.

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Porsche Panamera killer🤘
I'm a bmw fanboy but I don't care who you are ... from the rear this absolutely is amazing and slays the panamera.

the m8 will be badass..
Totally agree with you!
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The ass looks so much better on this than the coupe.
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Front grills are too small.
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It looks almost like a stretched version of the coupe .. he entire front fascia , including the bumper design, looks almost identical with its sleek lights and wide grille. The back has nearly the same taillights and bumper design.
That's exactly the point
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You probably do not mean special as unique (the CLS carries over the E-Class interior, the AMG GT4 too except the center console, the A7 carries over the A6's interior...) but as distinctly classy/elegant, which is debatable.

In terms of esthetics, the 8er interior does have a classical, sober, understated elegance that hits, I think, a great balance between sporty and classy. But it certainly doesn't live quite up to its full potential as previewed by the 2017 Concept which, though very similar, walked this fine line to perfection with just a few modifications (more slanted and flowing center stack/center console, flush storage compartment, more precious air vents, more cohesive color scheme). The Merc interiors are more baroque and extravagant, bolder but maybe more vulgar on some level, I guess it comes down to personal taste.

In terms of objective standards of quality fit and finish and premium feel, all these competitors seem pretty much neck and neck.

In terms of ergonomics, I'm so glad BMW hasn't (yet?) succumbed to Audi's aberrant all-digital controls and still preserves the traditional feel of real buttons. The best solution for the future seems to be clean black tactile surfaces with icons only lighting up when ignition is on (a la Porsche), yet with ridges and grooves allowing blind button-like operation (a la BMW), and haptic feedback on every possible control surface.
Yup you are on the money. I was simply getting at how boring the design is. They may get away with it on the Coupe since that's such a niche vehicle, but in the sedan class it's just too understated. The 6er Gran Coupe's interior looked the part!
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The non-Hofmeister kink reminded me of something else, and I first thought Dodge Charger or Kia Stinger. After a bit it dawned on me that it resembles a Nissan GTR. Not the worst design ever, and on most cars it would be okay, but it's jarring on a BMW.
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I saw an 8 series in person in Austin. It was very different seeing it in real life versus pictures I was taken aback. The low sleekness of it vs a 5 or seemingly a 6 was both strange but I maintain it's the best liking BMW of the new design language.

I only wish the GCs weren't so long in comparison to the 8 standard. The same story with the 6 GC.

The only thing in my mind that hangs me up is the 5 series price/performance is just better and the 8 is so marked up for seemingly little better performance.

That said I prefer the 8.
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I'm really not a fan of this new hoffmeister kink
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This is so good! I like it!
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Lol looks just like a Kia stinger from the side
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Hmmm, wonder what this color is.
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Good!

But now imagine it with a proper Hofmeister Kink.... would be a lot better!
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i can't get over this ridiculous, unnecessary gash adornment on the side.
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I'm always amazed of this pricey cars being transported with ZERO protection.

Nice color on the 8. That roadster though!
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How very true.

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I preferred the 6er GC's Hofmeister, that was more sleek.
very true. That car is one of the generation’s standouts but still this one not so bad and offers some more refinement in the design to offset the loss the sharpness lost from the concept 8.
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I'd expect MSRP pricing to look something like this:

M850i gran coupe: $105,000 plus options (about $30k over base M550i)

M8 gran coupe: $135,000 plus options (about $30k over base M5)

BMW is positioning the 8-series as a step-up from the Mercedes CLS in terms of exclusivity and cost. Hence, why the CLS 53 is around $80,000 base, and CLS 63 S is around $110,000 base.
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I'd expect MSRP pricing to look something like this:

M850i gran coupe: $105,000 plus options (about $30k over base M550i)

M8 gran coupe: $135,000 plus options (about $30k over base M5)

BMW is positioning the 8-series as a step-up from the Mercedes CLS in terms of exclusivity and cost. Hence, why the CLS 53 is around $80,000 base, and CLS 63 S is around $110,000 base.
They'll likely be bringing an 840i to the states I believe, its not confirmed yet for NA, but it has been seen testing on the Nürburgring
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Put Lexus emblems on it
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I'm a bmw fanboy but I don't care who you are ... from the rear this absolutely is amazing and slays the panamera.

the m8 will be badass..
Agreed that the M8 will be badass but the 8 series rear end design is underwhelming to say the least.

Apart from the huge kink with minuscule spoiler, Asian looking tail lights, the cars sports an ugly plastic diffuser and Escalade-sized fake exhaust tips.
Classy dos not come to mind.

IMO the Panamera rear-end is a million times better..


Mind you that Porsche can't give the Panamera away. Sales are soft even with the highest discounts Porsche offers on any model...
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It’s getting a little frustrating when I’m seeing other car companies try to copy the kink from BMW, like MB with the c class coupe and the GT 4 door coupe, and they are doing a better job than BMW. What is this? C pillar has no rhyme or reason. And I had such high hopes because I thought the 4 gran coupe was almost perfect.
BMW is ruining its distinctive characteristics (kidney grill, headlamps and now the kink)

I really don't like this new direction. The X4 already looks awful in the D post. Now the 8 in the C posts looks like crap. And next will be the 4GC. What are they thinking!!?
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