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      06-13-2019, 05:12 PM   #111
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Wow, love this over the m8 coupe. At first glance, side silhouette almost reminds me of e60 m5. Love this GC rendition.
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      06-13-2019, 08:33 PM   #112
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I wonder how this will sell considering that current 6 Series sales are atrocious.
The 6 Series Gran Coupe and convertible were discontinued last year after MY2018 ended while the coupe went out of production a few months prior. Current 6 Series sales numbers are for the G32 640i GT only which is known not to be getting a replacement at the end of its model run due to poor sales.

The 8 Series, on the other hand, is selling just fine for a six figure vehicle with limited practicality (only two doors). The addition of this new four door Gran Coupe model should at least double sales if not more.

Furthermore, the newly available 840i coupe and convertible models, soon to include an 840i Gran Coupe as well, bring the entry MSRP down into the five figure range (about $85k), making the vehicle quite a bit more accessible. It will also mean that the number of 8 Series variants has reached parity with what was available for the F generation 6 Series (not including the M6 Gran Coupe replacement, the M8 Gran Coupe, which will debut and go on sale next year).
As much as I love this new 8 series, I can't help my self to think that this is just a marketing thing discontinuing the 6 and coming up with a "brand new series". My eyes say wow exiting new series and my brain says new gen of 6er with a new badge.

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      06-13-2019, 08:58 PM   #113
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      06-13-2019, 11:46 PM   #114
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As much as I love this new 8 series, I can't help my self to think that this is just a marketing thing discontinuing the 6 and coming up with a "brand new series". My eyes say wow exiting new series and my brain says new gen of 6er with a new badge.

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Definitely. There’s no doubt that branding it the 8 Series instead of a new generation of the 6 Series is a marketing effort to position it as a flagship that can better command a higher price tag.

That said, the base price of a 2020 840i Coupe (the least expensive 8 Series model) is roughly $88k which is only about $10k more than the 2017 640i Coupe was before it was discontinued back in May of 2017. So, the 6 Series was always expensive given its position in the lineup - closer to the price of the equivalent 7 Series model than 5 Series model. Thus, the new generation model was going to be an $80k+ car no matter what they called it.
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      06-14-2019, 03:08 AM   #116
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I don't tend to follow the movement of designers between companies, but didn't the design lead from bmw go to Kia in the last few years? That could be why there is some similarity, I assume Kia may have a quicker route to market but this is just a guess.

That said, I like it. I agree the roof line looks better than the coupe. Having a 6gc, I can understand what's going on with the hofmeister kink, having the pointy out window on the 6gc rear door creates a frameless piece of glass that I constantly have to make sure my little boy doesn't bash his head on. That said the way the rear sweeps over the rear wheel arch the link looks more prominent from the profile picture taken from the front of the car.

In the early shots I actually like it more than I thought. Some things I still think are out of proportion. The height of the bonnet seems to high at the front given the sweeping lines from the windscreen back. I assume this is for pedestrian safety and crash performance? The wheels still look to small, put some 21's with a bit more rubber on to balance the huge size of car to the proportion of the wheel. Those rear usb ports???? These are just thrown in in terms of practicality. My kids will be sat in the back and hanmmering away on their mobiles, why have a charging cable hang down over the controls, why not have them exit the side of the console or underneath the air controls so they don't break the visual performance of the controls.

Finally 6gc Vs 8gc, to me this is just the new f06. The 6 series suffered by being the number under the 7 series, it was clearly designed to be superior to the 7 in terms of interior style and sporty gt style. So making it an 8 makes sense.

Having looked at the 8 coupe, I couldn't understand why it had no rear passenger space, comparing it to an M2 or M4 and it makes no sense why the 8 coupe was so long with such limited space.

When does this get officially released?

Would I take it over the panemera? Not sure, I think the updated interior of the Porsche appeals to me more than this rather bland interior, let's face it it's not dramatically different to the 3 series.
In all honesty, I'll probably get the latest M6GC as a stepping stone before this, likely to wait till the facelift of this comes out to see how much of a lead balloon this thing is in terms of depreciation.
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      06-14-2019, 03:41 AM   #117
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You can get those for around $30-40k now.

In the UK you can pick up a nice one for well under 20k
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I don't tend to follow the movement of designers between companies, but didn't the design lead from bmw go to Kia in the last few years? That could be why there is some similarity, I assume Kia may have a quicker route to market but this is just a guess.
The chief designer has remained the same.

BMW group has a collection of extremely talented designers.
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      06-14-2019, 11:44 AM   #119
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OMG its beautiful! The lines are so futuristic.. i really think the 8 series is bringing BMW into the next level of automotive aesthetics
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The chief designer has remained the same.

BMW group has a collection of extremely talented designers.
Karin Habib went to Infiniti. The brand that uses BMW design traits but goes over them with a compass so that they curve out further.
Infiniti are also pulling out of the European market within the next year.
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The chief designer has remained the same.

BMW group has a collection of extremely talented designers.
Karin Habib went to Infiniti. The brand that uses BMW design traits but goes over them with a compass so that they curve out further.
Infiniti are also pulling out of the European market within the next year.
Scott, I was referring to Adrian van Hooydonk.

After bus-tossing Carlos Ghosn, I hope Infiniti dies on the vine.

You should've seen Karim Habib present the car that never appeared.

I bet Karim regrets leaving BMW and going to work for Infiniti from that moment on.
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Adding some more interior pictures
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What do you think about engines? 840d and 850i seems sure, but i would be reallly happy with a 845e with the 340HP petrol engine and more than 50KM electric range.
If the X5 and 7 gets tris powertrain why the 8 series would t?
Or this is a hedonist car as the coupe and wont get any hybrid engine? What do you think?
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Yeah, that should be on top page!
Love the interior.

Thanks for sharing Miko!!!
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Yeah, that should be on top page!
Love the interior.

Thanks for sharing Miko!!!
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The GC's are the best looking BMW cars. Both the 6 and the 8 look great. The only complaint I have with the 8 GCfrom these pics is the side body lines are too soft when you compare it to the front and rear lines which are much sharper. I hope eventually BMW will fix this design imbalance.
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