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      04-19-2020, 11:31 AM   #45
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Interesting side story to this all...

https://samtalkscars.blog/2020/04/18...wow-for-a-day/
I'm gonna have to disagree with this guy. Drive it like you stole it or what's the point? It's not as if a GT-R is a particularly luxurious car that's offering many other amenities outside of incredible performance, so why not take advantage of that?
I think you need to read the entire story.

He gives several reasons why.

Then you'll understand.
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https://samtalkscars.blog/2020/04/18...wow-for-a-day/
I'm gonna have to disagree with this guy. Drive it like you stole it or what's the point? It's not as if a GT-R is a particularly luxurious car that's offering many other amenities outside of incredible performance, so why not take advantage of that?
I think you need to read the entire story.

He gives several reasons why.

Then you'll understand.
I don't understand after having read the article.
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https://samtalkscars.blog/2020/04/18...wow-for-a-day/
I'm gonna have to disagree with this guy. Drive it like you stole it or what's the point? It's not as if a GT-R is a particularly luxurious car that's offering many other amenities outside of incredible performance, so why not take advantage of that?
I think you need to read the entire story.

He gives several reasons why.

Then you'll understand.
I don't understand after having read the article.
OK I will paraphrase it for you...

"This car clearly had a propensity for breaking itself when launched, despite my launch counter showing 0. So when it came to it the car was babied off the line with 0 revs and sent. For those of you saying "it's just one it's just one" it took around 10 takes to get all 3 cars launched correctly, so it would've taken its toll if repeatedly launched. That may not bother you but if so you've a much larger wallet than I do."
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It took 10 takes just to have the Ferrari and GTR launched correctly ... According to Mat the M8c launched well every time
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It took 10 takes just to have the Ferrari and GTR launched correctly ... According to Mat the M8c launched well every time
The interesting part is the GT-R is an 11 year old car, and it's still considered relevant even today.
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Sounds nothing like an E60 M5 unless you put the Ferrari video in slo-mo perhaps.... the M5 would be either in limp mode or the sound of rod knocks would drown out the exhaust...:
Ferrari V12 FTW
Yeah because all Ferraris come standard with Toyota levels of reliability.

And FWIW, S70/2 > any Ferrari V12.
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The interesting part is the GT-R is an 11 year old car, and it's still considered relevant even today.
GT-R is a beast! It’s a shame Nissan doesn’t have money to make a new one.
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The interesting part is the GT-R is an 11 year old car, and it's still considered relevant even today.
GT-R is a beast! It's a shame Nissan doesn't have money to make a new one.
No doubt... Long live the GT-R ‼️

Nissan can die a slow painful death for all I care.

It's because of Carlos Ghosn that the R35 GT-R even existed at all.

Nissan & Japan Inc. tried to screw over Carlos Ghosn to stop a merger with Renault, and in the process ended up completely screwing themselves.
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GT-R is a beast! It’s a shame Nissan doesn’t have money to make a new one.
Even if Nissan had the money they'd ruin it, they just don't know how to make good vehicles anymore. Just look at how bad the Q50/60 is in comparison to its predecessor the G35/37, a great vehicle, I use to call them Japanese BMW's it was such a great driving car. Sadly all of Nissan's good vehicles are the ones they haven't touched in a decade (Frontier, Z370) or are discontinued (Infiniti M, FX)
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
Absolutely ‼️
I enjoy the drag races I have to admit.

The GTR didn't participate in this one as far as I'm concerned so perhaps one qualifying criterion should be, "we're going to launch it hard and repeatedly against something it might lose to... OK?"
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
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I enjoy the drag races I have to admit.

The GTR didn't participate in this one as far as I'm concerned so perhaps one qualifying criterion should be, "we're going to launch it hard and repeatedly against something it might lose to... OK?"
The owner said NO.

He was nice to give his car.

He has zero launches recorded.

I can understand why he restricted them.
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
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I enjoy the drag races I have to admit.

The GTR didn't participate in this one as far as I'm concerned so perhaps one qualifying criterion should be, "we're going to launch it hard and repeatedly against something it might lose to... OK?"
The owner said NO.

He was nice to give his car.

He has zero launches recorded.

I can understand why he restricted them.
I can't. What's the car for if not for driving harder than a regular family sedan—that's subjective, though, and his choice.

What I'm saying is Matt should simply qualify that upfront. If it's a "no", then no thanks.

The reality is this: what is the point of a drag race if you don't give the cars participating their best chance of winning. The GTR was an ornament so shouldn't have been included.
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
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I enjoy the drag races I have to admit.

The GTR didn't participate in this one as far as I'm concerned so perhaps one qualifying criterion should be, "we're going to launch it hard and repeatedly against something it might lose to... OK?"
The owner said NO.

He was nice to give his car.

He has zero launches recorded.

I can understand why he restricted them.
I can't. What's the car for if not for driving harder than a regular family sedan—that's subjective, though, and his choice.

What I'm saying is Matt should simply qualify that upfront. If it's a "no", then no thanks.

The reality is this: what is the point of a drag race if you don't give the cars participating their best chance of winning. The GTR was an ornament so shouldn't have been included.
This is what I meant by I don't understand the owner restricting them. There's no point of the car if you're not enjoying it properly.
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This was entertaining and all, but I wonder if they simply do these because they have no other material to make something else, anything else.
They ask subscribers to test their cars and created races for fun accordingly.

I see it as having fun with different random cars, and being somewhat entertaining at the same time.
Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.
Absolutely ‼️
I enjoy the drag races I have to admit.

The GTR didn't participate in this one as far as I'm concerned so perhaps one qualifying criterion should be, "we're going to launch it hard and repeatedly against something it might lose to... OK?"
The owner said NO.

He was nice to give his car.

He has zero launches recorded.

I can understand why he restricted them.
I can't. What's the car for if not for driving harder than a regular family sedan—that's subjective, though, and his choice.

What I'm saying is Matt should simply qualify that upfront. If it's a "no", then no thanks.

The reality is this: what is the point of a drag race if you don't give the cars participating their best chance of winning. The GTR was an ornament so shouldn't have been included.
There's hard and then there's HARD. I can see the owner's point. Probably wanted to see it compared at some level, just not the level that was needed. ///M TOWN is right, he was gracious enough to loan the car in the first place. Insurance or not, I'm sure there's some nervousness involved.
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Correct... And now they don't have to buy him clutches like they have to replace his rear brakes.

Because somehow a that got a rock got caught in there, and did damage.
I do feel a tad like you're cherry-picking your points of contention here. So that said: I understand why the owner would restrict how CarWow used the car--personally, I wouldn't, but I get it, nonetheless. I've said that two or three times now.

What I don't understand is the result of Matt/CarWow using it under those constraints: drag race or don't... but if it's "don't", then don't do it all. There is one purpose to a drag race--I'm sure I don't need to define what it is--so compete or don't. The GTR didn't compete because the owner wasn't comfortable--that is their call and there's no argument here (no argument when it's not my car I mean).

The end result, however, is that the GTR did not participate so why be there at all... hence the ornament comment. The GTR added no value whatsoever.

On the "buy him clutches"...

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There's hard and then there's HARD. I can see the owner's point. Probably wanted to see it compared at some level, just not the level that was needed. ///M TOWN is right, he was gracious enough to loan the car in the first place. Insurance or not, I'm sure there's some nervousness involved.
Understood.

To my mind, though, compete... or don't--half way is effectively "don't".
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While I understand your point it was not their car to abuse.

It's something you either understand or you don't.
I read your original response (that you quickly edited)--your intention and attitude is well understood now. I've... lost the will to type anything else...

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I read your original response (that you quickly edited)--your intention and attitude is well understood now. I've... lost the will to type anything else...

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Ooooh, now you're deleting them--but caught that one, too (it's called "Email")--I've had "chill Scotch--it was luuuuuvly". No pills for me but to each their own if that's your thing.
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