[Saunders17283]

When I took delivery of my M850 last week, they told me I could setup an appointment and they would update me to the latest 07/2020 build. While I know there are reasons NOT to update to 07/2020, I'm wondering if they still outweigh the benefits given the fact that I'm already on 03/2020.40?

The 03/2020.40 build already reduced my exhaust sounds. What else do I have to lose?

I now have confirmation that 07/2020 does bring Apple Maps to our HUD and I'd like to weight the risk vs. the reward at this point. Thanks!

[chrism850i]

Since you’re already at 03/2020, you may as well upgrade. They’ve done a couple upgrades to 07/2020 already to fix some issues on the first release and then you’ll get Android Auto and Drive Recorder.

[Saunders17283]

Originally Posted by chrism850i

Since you’re already at 03/2020, you may as well upgrade. They’ve done a couple upgrades to 07/2020 already to fix some issues on the first release and then you’ll get Android Auto and Drive Recorder.

That's kind of what I was thinking. It would be different if the attack on our exhaust sound occurred between 03/2020.40 and 07/2020 but I'm already a lucky recipient of that as it is so what's to lose!

[chrism850i]

Originally Posted by Saunders17283

That's kind of what I was thinking. It would be different if the attack on our exhaust sound occurred between 03/2020.40 and 07/2020 but I'm already a lucky recipient of that as it is so what's to lose!

Still hoping BMW figures out a fix for that. It’s supposed to be in process. I’ll keep you posted in case it requires another update. Then you’ll experience how the car was always supposed to sound which makes it a whole different beast.

[Saunders17283]

Originally Posted by chrism850i

Still hoping BMW figures out a fix for that. It’s supposed to be in process. I’ll keep you posted in case it requires another update. Then you’ll experience how the car was always supposed to sound which makes it a whole different beast.

It was like pulling teeth trying to get them to update a car I just took delivery of a week ago to 07/2020.45.

Can't imagine they'll be receptive to another request because of exhaust sounds.

I've purchased many BMW's from this dealer and every single one has taken an act of Congress to get them to update. Now I know BMWNA could also be part of the prob too.

Is it possible to go around the dealer and express you're need/want for an I step update directly with BMW so you're "pre-authorized" once you take it in?

[chrism850i]

Originally Posted by Saunders17283

It was like pulling teeth trying to get them to update a car I just took delivery of a week ago to 07/2020.45.

Can't imagine they'll be receptive to another request because of exhaust sounds.

I've purchased many BMW's from this dealer and every single one has taken an act of Congress to get them to update. Now I know BMWNA could also be part of the prob too.

Is it possible to go around the dealer and express you're need/want for an I step update directly with BMW so you're "pre-authorized" once you take it in?

Unfortunately BMW doesn’t reimburse the dealer for these updates anymore unless the update is required to correct a connectivity or audio/HVAC/head unit issue. The over the air is pretty simple to do but may not be immediately available in the i drive system. Did you try that before going to the dealer?

[Saunders17283]

Originally Posted by chrism850i

Unfortunately BMW doesn’t reimburse the dealer for these updates anymore unless the update is required to correct a connectivity or audio/HVAC/head unit issue. The over the air is pretty simple to do but may not be immediately available in the i drive system. Did you try that before going to the dealer?

If you mean searching in either the Connected Drive app on my phone or going to the bottom of the general settings menu under car in the iDrive and selecting "Check for Updates"…yep, did try that (did it like once or twice a week before I got upgraded).

[chrism850i]

Originally Posted by Saunders17283

If you mean searching in either the Connected Drive app on my phone or going to the bottom of the general settings menu under car in the iDrive and selecting "Check for Updates"…yep, did try that (did it like once or twice a week before I got upgraded).

Weird. I’m not quite sure the rhyme or reason for when they consider these upgrades available. I’ve seen some cars recently that had 11.2019 software only have a newer version of 11.2019 available for upgrade.

[mxb172]

I just did this OTA updated and now no longer have remote start functions. Sorry if this was posted already. Known issue? Any fix?

[mxb172]

Disregard. Setting is located in climate control.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by mxb172

Disregard. Setting is located in climate control.

What OTA release did you just upgrade to? I did an OTA from 11/2019.55 to 11/2019.70 and it did not impact my the Climate Control setting to enable it. So curious as to your OTA release which wiped it out in the process.

[RJC-1]

So the latest update is reducing the exhaust sounds? Can you please elaborate under what conditions this is occuring. Thx.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

So the latest update is reducing the exhaust sounds? Can you please elaborate under what conditions this is occuring. Thx.

With my OTA update from 11/2019.55 (installed by my dealer late last December) to 11/2019.70 in July the burbles/gurgles are definitely reduced across the board and only really active now in Sport Plus. Prior to the .70 release I had plenty of burbles/gurgles in Sport but now they are pretty much non-existent. I used to be able to get them to fire on demand by timing letting off the gas with downshifts as I approached a stop light, etc. I've played around with Sport and can get them on a rare occasion but with Sport Plus I can still get them any time I choose to do so (this is done via having the engine set to Sport Plus for my Sport Individual configuration).

[redhot47fla]

Does anyone have any theory as to why BMW would do this? What is there to be gained by deleting or dumbing-down the gurgles?

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

Does anyone have any theory as to why BMW would do this? What is there to be gained by deleting or dumbing-down the gurgles?

I can't figure out why they would retroactively do so, unless the sounds were already over the limit and had to. After all the German's have been found not to play by the rules of late when it comes to MPG's etc.

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by bloozemanAZ

With my OTA update from 11/2019.55 (installed by my dealer late last December) to 11/2019.70 in July the burbles/gurgles are definitely reduced across the board and only really active now in Sport Plus. Prior to the .70 release I had plenty of burbles/gurgles in Sport but now they are pretty much non-existent. I used to be able to get them to fire on demand by timing letting off the gas with downshifts as I approached a stop light, etc. I've played around with Sport and can get them on a rare occasion but with Sport Plus I can still get them any time I choose to do so (this is done via having the engine set to Sport Plus for my Sport Individual configuration).

That sux. Next time I fire up the M850 I'll check on my version which was done at the dealer in Feb...exhaust still sounds mean as even even in comfort mode across the board.

I keep asking here if the dealer/BMW can force an important update (which in addition to safety related concerns, can have other items baked in) when in for a scheduled service, but only crickets this far...

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

Does anyone have any theory as to why BMW would do this? What is there to be gained by deleting or dumbing-down the gurgles?

Originally Posted by RJC-1

I can't figure out why they would retroactively do so, unless the sounds were already over the limit and had to. Afterall the German have been found not to play by the rules of late when it comes to MPG's etc.

As posted in the Exhaust Gurgle thread in which this has been discussed at length I've found several states in which 6K gross weight or less vehicles have a 80 dbA exhaust sound limit. Here in AZ we just need a working muffler that "that is in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise". Thus, BMW may be addressing the lowest common denominator across the board given it would be a nightmare trying to control that from a state by state perspective.

It's been well known that the M850i's have had an aggressive exhaust sound even to the point it was called out in M8 reviews as a comparison to their stock sound. My 2020 landed with a 05/2019 iDrive release with glorious exhaust sound that was intact with my dealer upgrade to 11/2019.55 in late December. However, the 2020 releases (including my 11/2019.70 OTA upgrade) appear to have the "controlled backfire" feature as per the Exhaust Gurgle thread in play. Totally disappointing as the exhaust sound is one aspect of the M850i I fell in love with and I probably watched the following video a hundred times while waiting for the first failed build and the 2nd one to land.

['Cane]

I had my break-in service today, and when I dropped it off I specifically asked them to update the software. Lo and behold, when I picked it up tonight, they said there was no update available (I'm on 11/2019.45). Kind of pissed after a long day to find out I'll have to go back.

[Saunders17283]

Originally Posted by bloozemanAZ

As posted in the Exhaust Gurgle thread in which this has been discussed at length I've found several states in which 6K gross weight or less vehicles have a 80 dbA exhaust sound limit. Here in AZ we just need a working muffler that "that is in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise". Thus, BMW may be addressing the lowest common denominator across the board given it would be a nightmare trying to control that from a state by state perspective.

It's been well known that the M850i's have had an aggressive exhaust sound even to the point it was called out in M8 reviews as a comparison to their stock sound. My 2020 landed with a 05/2019 iDrive release with glorious exhaust sound that was intact with my dealer upgrade to 11/2019.55 in late December. However, the 2020 releases (including my 11/2019.70 OTA upgrade) appear to have the "controlled backfire" feature as per the Exhaust Gurgle thread in play. Totally disappointing as the exhaust sound is one aspect of the M850i I fell in love with and I probably watched the following video a hundred times while waiting for the first failed build and the 2nd one to land.

Same boat here. I keep hoping one day I'm going to see a new thread that allows us to resolve this with some coding but I'm not holding my breath.

[BeeMdblU]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

I had my break-in service today, and when I dropped it off I specifically asked them to update the software. Lo and behold, when I picked it up tonight, they said there was no update available (I'm on 11/2019.45). Kind of pissed after a long day to find out I'll have to go back.

don't do the update, unless you don't care about engine sound