[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by Epiplatys

I still have second thoughts that we got the M850i instead of the LC500. The LC coupe is such absolutely by far best looking coupe on the market for a very long time. I'm still drooling, may be one day.

I think coupe to coupe is a closer race on looks with the LC edging out the 8, but vert to vert, the LC is the clear winner. One thing that helps to reinforce the 8 choice is the mighty engine.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

I think coupe to coupe is a closer race on looks with the LC edging out the 8, but vert to vert, the LC is the clear winner. One thing that helps to reinforce the 8 choice is the mighty engine.

The TTV8 in the 8er is a monster, but there's something to be said about the character and sound that a NA V8 provides. I would take the loss in 0-60 gladly for that 5.0 V8, its the last of its kind pretty much at least in GT/Sports Cars, not to mention its beyond bulletrpoof.

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by jstein55

The TTV8 in the 8er is a monster, but there's something to be said about the character and sound that a NA V8 provides. I would take the loss in 0-60 gladly for that 5.0 V8, its the last of its kind pretty much at least in GT/Sports Cars, not to mention its beyond bulletrpoof.

Came very close to buying the LC before the M850, here's my assessment of plus/minuses for any considering the two, my final decision came down to seats as the LC's in touring has a steep slope to the lower cushion which both my wife and I found uncomfortable after driving for a while and the sport seats did not have the steep angle but were much less padded and alcantara was only option in them:

LC has a glass roof +Lexus
LC arguably looks better inside/out +Lexus
LC has a rep for better service +Lexus
LC more exclusive +Lexus
LC more standard equipment +Lexus
LC lower MSRP +Lexus
LC has 21" wheel option +Lexus
LC has perforated steering wheel +Lexus

M850 more powerful/better performer +BMW
M850 more comfortable seats +BMW
M850 better overall value when leasing +BMW
M850 has better infotainment +BMW
M850 has surround view/360' cameras +BMW
M850 carbon fiber roof option +BMW

[jm_bmw_m8]

I traded in a LC500 for the M8, don’t regret it at all. LC500 looks nice and sounds nice, but the performance and driving experience don’t even come close to the BMW.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by jm_bmw_m8

I traded in a LC500 for the M8, don’t regret it at all. LC500 looks nice and sounds nice, but the performance and driving experience don’t even come close to the BMW.

Welcome to the forum and agree with the sentiment as a LC500 was in my final down select of two options which included a 2020 M850i that out performs the LC500 so a M8 just adds insult to injury. The only thing I'd point out is that the LC500 just doesn't look nice but at least in my opinion is the best looking coupe on the market and now the convertible just ramps it up. Loved the NA sound as well over the M850i but performance plus a 10x better infotainment system made the decision a no brainer in favor of the M850i.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by jstein55

The TTV8 in the 8er is a monster, but there's something to be said about the character and sound that a NA V8 provides. I would take the loss in 0-60 gladly for that 5.0 V8, its the last of its kind pretty much at least in GT/Sports Cars, not to mention its beyond bulletrpoof.

Couldn't agree more but it was the Infotainment vs the loss in 0-60 that killed it for me. I've jokingly stated it before that if someone asked me 10 years ago whether a car purchase decision would be based on Infotainment (it really didn't exist back then) I'd have laughed them out of the room. However, the world has changed and a car's Infotainment is front and center in our now digital driven world.

My outgoing Lexus GS430 was long in the tooth but for it's time it had an on par Infotainment experience with the rest of the market. Although over the past few years, I had loaners (when my car was in service) or rentals on business trips my expectation was for ithe flagship of the Lexus line they would chart a new course in the LC and drag the rest along through model updates. Nope, same system outside of replacing the ridiculous "mouse" controller with a touchpad. The Lexus SA that went along with me on several test drives kept explaining on how best to control the audio via the steering wheel controls, the climate controls, etc. but the entire time I was just relishing in the NA sound as the entire Infotainment system is retro mid-2000s and scratched the LC off my list.

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by jm_bmw_m8

I traded in a LC500 for the M8, don’t regret it at all. LC500 looks nice and sounds nice, but the performance and driving experience don’t even come close to the BMW.

Welcome.

When/if Lexus releases an F-Sport version it will be the best of all worlds.

We are all truly blessed to own these kinds of machines, and even though my wife and I are quite charitable, we feel a bit guilty about some of the luxuries enjoyed by us when so many in this world suffer so

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

Came very close to buying the LC before the M850, here's my assessment of plus/minuses for any considering the two, my final decision came down to seats as the LC's in touring has a steep slope to the lower cushion which both my wife and I found uncomfortable after driving for a while and the sport seats did not have the steep angle but were much less padded and alcantara was only option in them:

LC has a glass roof +Lexus
LC arguably looks better inside/out +Lexus
LC has a rep for better service +Lexus
LC more exclusive +Lexus
LC more standard equipment +Lexus
LC lower MSRP +Lexus
LC has 21" wheel option +Lexus
LC has perforated steering wheel +Lexus

M850 more powerful/better performer +BMW
M850 more comfortable seats +BMW
M850 better overall value when leasing +BMW
M850 has better infotainment +BMW
M850 has surround view/360' cameras +BMW
M850 carbon fiber roof option + BMW

My bad carbon roof is available with LC's sport pkg.

[c^2]

Not touching a Lexus - horrible software, about 10 years behind iDrive

[RJC-1]

The fact the LC infotainment is not touchscreen is a plus for the 8 and listed as such, but the LC's interior almost makes it fully worth it.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by c^2

Not touching a Lexus - horrible software, about 10 years behind iDrive

IMO the LC is the hands down winner from overall aesthetics, the interior gets the nod as well outside of the seats, the NA V8 gets the nod for glorious sound but lower performance and finally to your point the software killed the car entirely off my short list.

[Footman614]

Car looks beautiful in a rag top. I had a SC400 and really likes it. Beautiful car BUT not a BMW

[W///]

Great looking car, never drove the convertibles, but I was disappointed with the coupes. The car to me just did not warrant its price tag IMO. I drove my E92 M3 to the dealership and left thinking my car is far more exciting than the LC500.

It would make a cool daily, and the exhaust is super nice from factory, but I just don't see a $70k+ car there. Interior quality is superb though.

Would have been interesting if they would have put a V8TT in there (LC-F).

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by bloozemanAZ

IMO the LC is the hands down winner from overall aesthetics, the interior gets the nod as well outside of the seats, the NA V8 gets the nod for glorious sound but lower performance and finally to your point the software killed the car entirely off my short list.

Yep
Apparently however, they made changes to the sw for 2021, still not touchscreen though.

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

Yep
Apparently however, they made changes to the sw for 2021, still not touchscreen though.

Interesting. I for one can live without the touchscreen aspect (seldom use it in the M850i) but that rewrite will need to be pervasive including the overall UI, streamlined simplicity to take action for the day-to-day needs, etc. One leg up the 8-series (like all BMWs) is the hard memory buttons which can be programmed for simple one-touch actions.

[BigHunk]

LC is not comparable with 8 series or S class, it's couple notches down from both of them, performance , interior and leather quality, driving feel etc etc

[redhot47fla]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

Yes, I have been actively tempted. The ‘verts have been in short supply, but I have been doing extensive due diligence and am looking forward to trying one on for size. (If my wife sees this post, I didn’t type it. I’ve been...eh...hacked.)

So, after all this time, I finally found an LC ‘vert somewhat within geographic reach and I hope (see above re wife) to drive over this weekend and try it on. I just can’t get it out of my mind, even though I know I probably should.

I’ve re-read this entire thread, which has proven quite useful regarding pros and cons to assess vs my 850 ‘vert. RJC's summary in message #25 above is particularly on point, as were the comments regarding seat comfort.

These LC ‘verts are incredibly scarce, so I don’t imagine there will be much flexibility regarding price (if we even get that far), but I will report back. (If I’m still alive and/or not in divorce court.)

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

So, after all this time, I finally found an LC ‘vert somewhat within geographic reach and I hope (see above re wife) to drive over this weekend and try it on. I just can’t get it out of my mind, even though I know I probably should.

I’ve re-read this entire thread, which has proven quite useful regarding pros and cons to assess vs my 850 ‘vert. RJC's summary in message #25 above is particularly on point, as were the comments regarding seat comfort.

These LC ‘verts are incredibly scarce, so I don’t imagine there will be much flexibility regarding price (if we even get that far), but I will report back. (If I’m still alive and/or not in divorce court.)

The 2021s are supposed to have a touch screen so definitely check that out if you do take the test drive. Not sure how much it is going to help over the clunky touchpad but I have my fingers crossed.

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

So, after all this time, I finally found an LC 'vert somewhat within geographic reach and I hope (see above re wife) to drive over this weekend and try it on. I just can't get it out of my mind, even though I know I probably should.

I've re-read this entire thread, which has proven quite useful regarding pros and cons to assess vs my 850 'vert. RJC's summary in message #25 above is particularly on point, as were the comments regarding seat comfort.

These LC 'verts are incredibly scarce, so I don't imagine there will be much flexibility regarding price (if we even get that far), but I will report back. (If I'm still alive and/or not in divorce court.)

Reports back on what you find and how it compares!

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

So, after all this time, I finally found an LC ‘vert somewhat within geographic reach and I hope (see above re wife) to drive over this weekend and try it on. I just can’t get it out of my mind, even though I know I probably should.

I’ve re-read this entire thread, which has proven quite useful regarding pros and cons to assess vs my 850 ‘vert. RJC's summary in message #25 above is particularly on point, as were the comments regarding seat comfort.

These LC ‘verts are incredibly scarce, so I don’t imagine there will be much flexibility regarding price (if we even get that far), but I will report back. (If I’m still alive and/or not in divorce court.)

I was thinking about these just last evening...they are so gorgeous! Good luck and keep us posted.

[redhot47fla]

My understanding is that the 2021s still do not have a touchscreen and that the screen itself is nearly out of normal reach, but that the much-maligned touchpad interface has been improved in some other, modest fashion.

Will advise. At the moment, I'm still working on a plan that combines on-scene inspection with personal survival.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

Luv my M850 but Lexus really hit it out of the park with this version (looks amazing top up or down)...and the color, simply lovely! I know the TT F-Sport version will be a monster, but there's something to be said for 470 naturally aspirated HP. I believe they are finally now on sale. Either way gotta admit the attention to detail is impressive.

That thing is STUNNING!

Were it not for their shameful tech (and its relative lack of power), I'd be all over it... 2 seats or not.