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      03-06-2020, 08:09 PM   #67
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The flagship money is given to dealerships / sales guys, it's attached to certain model vehicles as an incentive to sell more of a particular make/model vehicle. The amount of money off each vehicle varies based on the vehicle. The program last month to month. Ask your sales guy to see the list, assuming his dealership is involved. I've seen discounts range from $2k to 5k. 8 series were included!
Thanks for the detail as did not know the specifics either. In some senses this is equivalent to US vehicle manufacturer's dealer hold back and incentives. Thus, unless you ask they our considering it on their profit side vs offering it up transparently in the deal. Even then they perhaps do not have to offer it up within the deal as a discount to the buyer but any sane CA will likely do so as unless they are absolutely short sighted the entire game is to build customer loyalty to a dealership.
I checked. I was told it doesn't apply. :
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I checked. I was told it doesn't apply. :
Or it actually does and they are keeping it to themselves for profit in the deal.
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I checked. I was told it doesn't apply. :
Or it actually does and they are keeping it to themselves for profit in the deal.
True enough. I'm sorta hoping someone confirms/refutes what I've heard.
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The flagship money is given to dealerships / sales guys, it's attached to certain model vehicles as an incentive to sell more of a particular make/model vehicle. The amount of money off each vehicle varies based on the vehicle. The program last month to month. Ask your sales guy to see the list, assuming his dealership is involved. I've seen discounts range from $2k to 5k. 8 series were included!
Thanks for the detail as did not know the specifics either. In some senses this is equivalent to US vehicle manufacturer's dealer hold back and incentives. Thus, unless you ask they our considering it on their profit side vs offering it up transparently in the deal. Even then they perhaps do not have to offer it up within the deal as a discount to the buyer but any sane CA will likely do so as unless they are absolutely short sighted the entire game is to build customer loyalty to a dealership.
Correct! Transparency allows both sides to fairly profit!
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Or it actually does and they are keeping it to themselves for profit in the deal.
This is most likely whats happening. I was at the dealer couple days ago and was told there is flagship money on the 8 series to try and help move the cars.
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Thanks, guys.

I'm gonna reach out to a few folks who might know more. If there's anyone reading this that can say with any certainty that 'flagship' discount does apply to a 2020 M8 Comp Gran Coupe, please let me know.

Time is somewhat of the essence now since the car's at the dealer and I plan to take delivery this coming Wednesday.
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What dealer did you work with for that good of a discount off MSRP? My current dealer is giving me about 8.3% off MSRP including the $3k loyalty!
I went to wideworld BMW in NY. Ordered it back in October. They tried to switch the deal when I took delivery bc I thought about moving up the mileage, but still got it all worked out.
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I don’t see the money factors posted in this thread. What are they for the 840i xdrice gran coupe this month.
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What dealer did you work with for that good of a discount off MSRP? My current dealer is giving me about 8.3% off MSRP including the $3k loyalty!
I went to wideworld BMW in NY. Ordered it back in October. They tried to switch the deal when I took delivery bc I thought about moving up the mileage, but still got it all worked out.
Did you get an 840 or 850?
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I don’t see the money factors posted in this thread. What are they for the 840i xdrice gran coupe this month.
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I wonder at what point do the issue with the coronavirus and the anti-trust EU issues and China's falling sales start to impact BMW NA enough to give us some better incentives? I stopped by the dealer this past weekend and my SA said that traffic has really dropped and not much is moving.
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I wonder at what point do the issue with the coronavirus and the anti-trust EU issues and China's falling sales start to impact BMW NA enough to give us some better incentives? I stopped by the dealer this past weekend and my SA said that traffic has really dropped and not much is moving.
I spoke with my SA yesterday about the topic. He's locked in the MD area and he personally along with his dealership sales have been doing well so far. He is also not doubting that BMW NA may not give better incentives based on the vehicle. I'm hoping that be the case, as I'm starting the order process April 1st for a 2020 M850i. I'll have one or two chances to take advantage of any change in incentives for the better.
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I spoke with my SA yesterday about the topic. He's locked in the MD area and he personally along with his dealership sales have been doing well so far. He is also not doubting that BMW NA may not give better incentives based on the vehicle. I'm hoping that be the case, as I'm starting the order process April 1st for a 2020 M850i. I'll have one or two chances to take advantage of any change in incentives for the better.
My advice is to negotiate the greatest discount off of MSRP you can when placing the order. Everything else, e.g., Financing APR, lease rate MF/residual and incentives will all automatically apply from what is offered during the month the M850i lands. To your dealer's point the other variables may get better logic at least states as per the current market they will not get worse.
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I spoke with my SA yesterday about the topic. He's locked in the MD area and he personally along with his dealership sales have been doing well so far. He is also not doubting that BMW NA may not give better incentives based on the vehicle. I'm hoping that be the case, as I'm starting the order process April 1st for a 2020 M850i. I'll have one or two chances to take advantage of any change in incentives for the better.
My advice is to negotiate the greatest discount off of MSRP you can when placing the order. Everything else, e.g., Financing APR, lease rate MF/residual and incentives will all automatically apply from what is offered during the month the M850i lands. To your dealer's point the other variables may get better logic at least states as per the current market they will not get worse.
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I spoke with my SA yesterday about the topic. He's locked in the MD area and he personally along with his dealership sales have been doing well so far. He is also not doubting that BMW NA may not give better incentives based on the vehicle. I'm hoping that be the case, as I'm starting the order process April 1st for a 2020 M850i. I'll have one or two chances to take advantage of any change in incentives for the better.
My advice is to negotiate the greatest discount off of MSRP you can when placing the order. Everything else, e.g., Financing APR, lease rate MF/residual and incentives will all automatically apply from what is offered during the month the M850i lands. To your dealer's point the other variables may get better logic at least states as per the current market they will not get worse.
At this point, I'm looking at 11% of MSRP.
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At this point, I'm looking at 11% of MSRP.
Forgot about that from the other thread on discounts. For a 2020 M850i that sounds like a good deal to me as 5% over my discount!
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At this point, I'm looking at 11% of MSRP.
Forgot about that from the other thread on discounts. For a 2020 M850i that sounds like a good deal to me as 5% over my discount!
You're correct sir!
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Dealer is offering me a lease on a 2019 in an individual color at $1099/month+tax with 12k miles a year and $5000 down. Haven't sat down to discuss actual numbers so not sure how much below MSRP that comes out to. Sound like a good deal?
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Dealer is offering me a lease on a 2019 in an individual color at $1099/month+tax with 12k miles a year and $5000 down. Haven't sat down to discuss actual numbers so not sure how much below MSRP that comes out to. Sound like a good deal?
That depends--which model?
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That depends--which model?

Lol sorry yeah forgot to add that bit of info. It's for an M850i. Thanks.
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Dealer is offering me a lease on a 2019 in an individual color at $1099/month+tax with 12k miles a year and $5000 down. Haven't sat down to discuss actual numbers so not sure how much below MSRP that comes out to. Sound like a good deal?

That depends--which model?
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Dealer is offering me a lease on a 2019 in an individual color at $1099/month+tax with 12k miles a year and $5000 down. Haven't sat down to discuss actual numbers so not sure how much below MSRP that comes out to. Sound like a good deal?
That depends--which model?

Lol sorry yeah forgot to add that bit of info. It's for an M850i. Thanks.
A little more info on the car. From my understanding it was a special order but ended up coming in without the correct parking assist package (doesn't come with parking sensors or cameras, only the reverse camera) so customer ordered another one. Sounds similar to what I've been reading happened to others on here. Car has been sitting on lot for months. Just curious if what they offered is the absolute best off they can make like they are saying or if it's possible to get it a little lower.
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