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      12-31-2019, 03:38 PM   #1
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No more M8 vert orders for 2020?

I've been trying to order a M8 convertible to get the colors and options I would like. Dealer is telling me that when they try to enter an order into the system the build date is August 2020.

If true, it seems that they realize that they have too many M8s on the ground and aren't going to build anymore to try to sell the ones they have. I'm not too excited about spending >$150K on a car that I can't build to my specs. Might not being coming back to BMW...

Anyone else hear this?
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I've been trying to order a M8 convertible to get the colors and options I would like. Dealer is telling me that when they try to enter an order into the system the build date is August 2020.

If true, it seems that they realize that they have too many M8s on the ground and aren't going to build anymore to try to sell the ones they have. I'm not too excited about spending >$150K on a car that I can't build to my specs. Might not being coming back to BMW...

Anyone else hear this?
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I've been trying to order a M8 convertible to get the colors and options I would like. Dealer is telling me that when they try to enter an order into the system the build date is August 2020.
If the earliest the dealer can get is August 2020 that does indeed sound like a 2021 model based on my experience with placing my order in July for my M850i and being told I had to wait until August for 2020 allocations. That said it may be a combination of existing cars as well as BMW targeting certain builds they believe will have higher potential for sale.

Case-in-point for my 2020 M850i the August allocation for the entire US was a whopping total of 5. The vast majority of the allocations were for the 840i and M850i GC. Not verified whatsoever by BMW but I suspected that both of those models in their view had higher potential for sale than the M850i Coupe.
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This may be a production issue or that they can only build so many 8 series convertibles and most of them seem to be M850i, followed by 840i/d and then M8. Also I think BMW is worried they will sit on dealer lots just like the glut of HEA cars right now. BMW should know that someone spending that kind of money wants a somewhat bespoke car, ie interior and exterior colors and options. That is what caused the glut in the first place.

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Yes. There are very few build spots left for 2020 M8 convertibles. My dealer was able to trade for M8 competition at the last minute - I signed the deal and configured the car and it went into production the next day. Certain (Priority 1) colors and options are going to push into 2021. For example, no way to get a base M8 with CCB this year and no way to get a competition convertible with CCB unless it is already spec'd that way. Coupes may be different. Fortunately was able to get an allocation.

I do think that BMW realizes that they have too many M8's on the ground. My only guess is that they needed to make a certain number to make production worthwhile and misjudged the pricing.
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I've been trying to order a M8 convertible to get the colors and options I would like. Dealer is telling me that when they try to enter an order into the system the build date is August 2020.

If true, it seems that they realize that they have too many M8s on the ground and aren't going to build anymore to try to sell the ones they have. I'm not too excited about spending >$150K on a car that I can't build to my specs. Might not being coming back to BMW...

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Try a different dealer, your dealer does not have an allocation
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I've been trying to order a M8 convertible to get the colors and options I would like. Dealer is telling me that when they try to enter an order into the system the build date is August 2020.

If true, it seems that they realize that they have too many M8s on the ground and aren't going to build anymore to try to sell the ones they have. I'm not too excited about spending >$150K on a car that I can't build to my specs. Might not being coming back to BMW...

Anyone else hear this?
Try a different dealer, your dealer does not have an allocation
Thanks. I checked with many dealers and eventually found one that entered production this week. There are very few left for 2020 and even those are limited in terms of colors - can't get priority 1 colors like Dravit.
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There's already a TON of M8 coupes and convertibles sitting on dealer lots. I think BMW should slow production already supply outpaces demand by a huge margin

Quick check on car gurus - 995 M8's on ground in USA
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I suspect current supply is a big reason why there are not too many M8 allocation spots left for 2020. I suspect that they will make many fewer going forward since the glut on the ground are going to require large incentives to move. Good if you find one configured the way you like but not so good if you are picky about colors or options.
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I was told a few weeks back by a manager at the dealership that BMW was cutting way back on production b/c the 8 series wasn't selling as well as planned.
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I was told a few weeks back by a manager at the dealership that BMW was cutting way back on production b/c the 8 series wasn't selling as well as planned.
As of now cars.com says 658 M8 not counting the GC

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I hope the 8's, LC's and S Coupes are around for many more years but sales need to keep improving.
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I hope the 8's, LC's and S Coupes are around for many more years but sales need to keep improving.
the car is way overpriced and not technologically advanced as its competitors so discounts will have to be given but not all potential buyers want to negotiate with the silly BMW dealer network so the high price is probably turning off several buyers!

There is a reason that Benz has outnumbered BMW
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the car is way overpriced and not technologically advanced as its competitors so discounts will have to be given but not all potential buyers want to negotiate with the silly BMW dealer network so the high price is probably turning off several buyers!

There is a reason that Benz has outnumbered BMW
Agree that the 8 series is overpriced. $30K over the M5 is too much. Around me, MB dealers are much worse than BMW - tried to look at a E63S and the experience was so painful that I probably wouldn't consider a AMG again. They are used to selling cars to people who don't know anything about them but want the prestige of a MB - clearly depends on the dealership.
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Agree that the 8 series is overpriced. $30K over the M5 is too much. Around me, MB dealers are much worse than BMW - tried to look at a E63S and the experience was so painful that I probably wouldn't consider a AMG again. They are used to selling cars to people who don't know anything about them but want the prestige of a MB - clearly depends on the dealership.
I agree with you there, I just picked up a slightly used 2019 E63S Wagon and it was smooth because it was Ferrari dealership. No wonder which dealership you go to Benz or BMW, its almost always painful. That is why I never go unless I have to take delivery. I am now use to doing everything online!
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I hope the 8's, LC's and S Coupes are around for many more years but sales need to keep improving.
S coupe is confirmed done. Just not many takers for those big coupes. My thought is the ones who want sporty ones go Porsche, the ones who want a giant GT car go Bentley
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I was told a few weeks back by a manager at the dealership that BMW was cutting way back on production b/c the 8 series wasn't selling as well as planned.
As of now cars.com says 658 M8 not counting the GC

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It's an amazing vehicle no doubt. Unfortunately that number is probably 500 more than the demand for em.

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I was told a few weeks back by a manager at the dealership that BMW was cutting way back on production b/c the 8 series wasn't selling as well as planned.
As of now cars.com says 658 M8 not counting the GC

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It's an amazing vehicle no doubt. Unfortunately that number is probably 500 more than the demand for em.

Drove one. Liked it, felt like every other Bmw inside. Bought a 2020 911... not as fast but handling and toss ability miles diff imo. Paid much less even with M8 15%+ discount
Nice! Like the 911 and the new ones are so much faster. Was looking at a turbo but the new one will be $160-170 to start and the turbo S much more. Also my long commute and some of the rural hospitals would frown on it vs a BMW, albeit a nice BMW seems to draw a quick look and people move on. I had a 2009 turbo and it was cobalt blue. Couldn't drive it anywhere without someone commenting on it. On a side note wifey loves 911s so when the kiddies are out of college and I take on a teaching job call me in!

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My M8 vert is replacing my 991 Turbo. The P-car is awesome. I just wanted something different with a bit more practicality and am fine giving up some of the sportiness. Wife didn't like the Turbo - too low, loud and rough - the reasons why it was great.

Production should finish next week sometime.
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My M8 vert is replacing my 991 Turbo. The P-car is awesome. I just wanted something different with a bit more practicality and am fine giving up some of the sportiness. Wife didn't like the Turbo - too low, loud and rough - the reasons why it was great.

Production should finish next week sometime.
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How do you like your 19 Cayenne Turbo?
I went from a F85 X5M to a Cayenne Turbo. I loved by X5M but the new Cayenne Turbo is better overall (except for price and note below). Just as fast, handles great, luxurious and smooth when you want it to be. It's carries less in back than the X5M. However, since it is so much more expensive, it's really needs to be better than the X5M. If the new X5M had been available, I probably would have gotten it but there was an 18 month gap between when I needed it and when it is coming out.

One negative about the Cayenne. The panel gaps are more inconsistent than one would expect. Lots of unhappy discussion on P-car forums about this.
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I went from a F85 X5M to a Cayenne Turbo. I loved by X5M but the new Cayenne Turbo is better overall (except for price and note below). Just as fast, handles great, luxurious and smooth when you want it to be. It's carries less in back than the X5M. However, since it is so much more expensive, it's really needs to be better than the X5M. If the new X5M had been available, I probably would have gotten it but there was an 18 month gap between when I needed it and when it is coming out.

One negative about the Cayenne. The panel gaps are more inconsistent than one would expect. Lots of unhappy discussion on P-car forums about this.
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