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      07-10-2017, 11:08 AM   #23
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You're not touching a 997.2 GT3 for under 100K, whoever recommended that.

My list-

1) 997.1 GT3 (this is barely in the range these days)

2) 991.1 GTS

3) 997.2 GTS

4) Might catch flak for this one, but 981 Boxster Spyder
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      07-10-2017, 11:10 AM   #24
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      07-10-2017, 11:19 AM   #25
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You're not touching a 997.2 GT3 for under 100K, whoever recommended that.

My list-

1) 997.1 GT3 (this is barely in the range these days)

2) 991.1 GTS

3) 997.2 GTS

4) Might catch flak for this one, but 981 Boxster Spyder
4 all day. But OP doesn't like convertibles. So GT4, more engaging that a C2S and likely better long term resale than a GTS.
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      07-10-2017, 11:25 AM   #26
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You're not touching a 997.2 GT3 for under 100K, whoever recommended that.

My list-

1) 997.1 GT3 (this is barely in the range these days)

2) 991.1 GTS

3) 997.2 GTS

4) Might catch flak for this one, but 981 Boxster Spyder
Not many of these available

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Possible........ depending on the spec. GT4's are still bringing sticker and in some cases slightly above.........Phil
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      07-10-2017, 11:33 AM   #27
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1998 C4s all the car you will ever need covers all the basis. You want to track the car Cayman GT4. Want a more visceral application get a 996 GT3.

I personally love the 914-6 but most likely not your best choice for your first P car.
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      07-10-2017, 11:42 AM   #28
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Yuck I hate convertibles lol
Man up and get a tan

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I personally love the 914-6 but most likely not your best choice for your first P car.
That was meant to be a joke. It has to be the ugliest Porsche ever produced.

991 C2S. Done
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      07-10-2017, 11:51 AM   #29
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I am guessing you never drove a 914-6, absolutely a blast and easily considered one of the least expensive Porsche collector cars. the 991 is quite a compliant/competent sports car but never the less run of the mill to me. If he were looking for another commuter car I would agree with the 991/997 as an option but I think he is looking for something special, if his budget were a bit higher I would recommend nothing other than the RSA which I also owned and tracked, best experience I have ever had. To each his own.
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      07-10-2017, 11:57 AM   #30
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So basically looking for the most bang for the buck as the saying goes. I am relentlessly trying to educate myself of the Porsche world as much as I can before commit to a car that I won't regret. Much like buying the E92 M3 (my 1st bmw). So here are the answers to some of your Qs:

1. Looking for P-car for both status and optimal performance for that price range
2. 2 door coupe
3. As early as late 90s to current yr model
4. I enjoy cornering
5. Low end torque doesn't matter, that much
6. Manual transmission
7. Ride to me is important. I want that driving sensation much like the E92 M3
8. Mostly a wknd car/ future collector car
9. Most reliable Porsche

I'm looking to add a Porsche to my E92 M3. Something that I can enjoy over n over
i am starting to think gt4....but if size doesnt matter then 991.1 s or gts...they feel bigger but look better ride, bettsr and have more status than the gt4...
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      07-10-2017, 12:02 PM   #31
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i am starting to think gt4....but if size doesnt matter then 991.1 s or gts...they feel bigger but look better ride, bettsr and have more status than the gt4...
Do they? At the track and to many enthusiasts (or at least me), a GT4 has a lot more presence than a non GT 911.
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      07-10-2017, 12:05 PM   #32
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lol, don't need a convertible to get a tan. I already have pigmentation.

Like I said I have never driven a Pcar before. But you are correct I'm looking for something special. Ok so those are good recommendations and will get popcorn n soda ready to watch a few YouTube reviews.

Hmmmm..., would it make much of a diff if I bump my budget to $125K? Only if there's significant change in performance capacity/capabilities.
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      07-10-2017, 12:29 PM   #33
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So basically looking for the most bang for the buck as the saying goes. I am relentlessly trying to educate myself of the Porsche world as much as I can before commit to a car that I won't regret. Much like buying the E92 M3 (my 1st bmw). So here are the answers to some of your Qs:

1. Looking for P-car for both status and optimal performance for that price range
2. 2 door coupe
3. As early as late 90s to current yr model
4. I enjoy cornering
5. Low end torque doesn't matter, that much
6. Manual transmission
7. Ride to me is important. I want that driving sensation much like the E92 M3
8. Mostly a wknd car/ future collector car
9. Most reliable Porsche

I'm looking to add a Porsche to my E92 M3. Something that I can enjoy over n over
Given that list as well as you budgeting around $100k, I suspect that the 991 C2S fits the bill (as others stated).
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GT4.
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      07-10-2017, 12:56 PM   #35
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Newer GT3s are in the $150k price point. Even the 997 GT3s have crept up in value, a nice example will set you back $120k+
Shit! Well, IMO if you can afford $100K cash payment on a car that isn't cheap to own, you can probably afford an extra $20K or $50K unless the OP is paying in cash cuz he has real bad credit.
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      07-10-2017, 01:12 PM   #36
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Well I was willing to dish out another $25k assuming there's significant performance changes.

Personally I don't like to finance and no, not cuz I have bad credit. In fact, my credit score is in the high 800s. I just don't like the idea the bankers is making money off the interst. I'd rather use that money to upgrade the car.

I'm sure you know that dealerships don't make off the car sales price much over the sales of parts, service and finance
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In fact, my credit score is in the high 800s. I just don't like the idea the bankers is making money off the interst. I'd rather use that money to upgrade the car
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      07-10-2017, 01:23 PM   #38
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Personally I don't like to finance and no, not cuz I have bad credit. In fact, my credit score is in the high 800s. I just don't like the idea the bankers is making money off the interst. I'd rather use that money to upgrade the car
If you have good credit you'll be able to get a real low interest rate. What does that mean? It means you can put some of / all the money you DIDN'T blow on a huge initial cash payment into (for example) an index that will on average grow around 10%, compounding in interest. Or you could fund some of it tax deferred into a 401k or IRA. Or you could use that money for other life stuff like business or even hookers and blow if you wanted. That's the whole point of financing, is that if done intelligently, it lets you keep more money at your disposal to use on more things rather than just dumping it into a car you would have anyway and then being out that sum of money.

The fact that bankers are making money off it is totally irrelevant, if it helps you. Your $100K means absolutely nothing to the banking industry but it probably means something to you. And every dollar you spend in life goes to some person who makes money. Who cares if it's bankers, a car dealer, the tire company, an insurance agent, the corrupt manager of the local grocery store, or whoever? In the end you gotta do what makes the best sense for your financial situation--that's business and money is the essence of it. Not financing because you have an emotional reaction against banks is not business, it's personal (and really doesn't even make sense personally) and that's a bad way to handle money.
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If you have good credit you'll be able to get a real low interest rate. What does that mean? It means you can put some of / all the money you DIDN'T blow on a huge initial cash payment into (for example) an index that will on average grow around 10%, compounding in interest. Or you could fund some of it tax deferred into a 401k or IRA. Or you could use that money for other life stuff like business or even hookers and blow if you wanted. That's the whole point of financing, is that if done intelligently, it lets you keep more money at your disposal to use on more things rather than just dumping it into a car you would have anyway and then being out that sum of money.

The fact that bankers are making money off it is totally irrelevant, if it helps you. Your $100K means absolutely nothing to the banking industry but it probably means something to you. And every dollar you spend in life goes to some person who makes money. Who cares if it's bankers, a car dealer, the tire company, an insurance agent, the corrupt manager of the local grocery store, or whoever? In the end you gotta do what makes the best sense for your financial situation--that's business and money is the essence of it. Not financing because you have an emotional reaction against banks is not business, it's personal (and really doesn't even make sense personally) and that's a bad way to handle money.
Agreed .

But damn I need to find some of those 10% investments everyone always talks about.
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      07-10-2017, 01:44 PM   #40
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      07-10-2017, 02:00 PM   #41
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This is what you want ...

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/201...-cayman-gt4-4/

OR this ...

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/199...e-911-turbo-4/

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      07-10-2017, 02:27 PM   #43
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Well I was willing to dish out another $25k assuming there's significant performance changes.

Personally I don't like to finance and no, not cuz I have bad credit. In fact, my credit score is in the high 800s.
No such thing as credit scores in the high 800's. The absolute perfect credit rating is 850.
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lol oops yeah that's what I meant. Just under the 850
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