[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Ok 24 and under…

We have kids being raised these days in an alternate universe - clearly there are many parents who have zero clue how to parent - in many cases loading them up with smart phones and video games that are rated for adult use only. It's truly out of control. Imo kids are crying for help and adults are too paranoid these days to do a goddamn thing about any of it. It's all sick.

I totally agree. The mental health of the kids today is troubling.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Ok 24 and under…

We have kids being raised these days in an alternate universe - clearly there are many parents who have zero clue how to parent - in many cases loading them up with smart phones and video games that are rated for adult use only. It's truly out of control. Imo kids are crying for help and adults are too paranoid these days to do a goddamn thing about any of it. It's all sick.

"Parents" these days want to be their kid's friend, not the adult. As I routinely told my son growing-up, my job description is "dad." I'd love to be your friend, but "dad" comes 1st. Unfortunately, at almost 40, he's still rebelling against us.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

"Parents" these days want to be their kid's friend, not the adult. As I routinely told my son growing-up, my job description is "dad." I'd love to be your friend, but "dad" comes 1st. Unfortunately, at almost 40, he's still rebelling against us.

What type of behavior does he still exhibit?

[floridaorange]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I totally agree. The mental health of the kids today is troubling.

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I totally agree. The mental health of the kids today is troubling.

It's been on a steady incline since the introduction of social media - and we are only beginning to take any action. The human brain isn't evolved to handle most of these new technologies and they have really taken parents and communities eyes off of the ball, so to speak. I think it's getting better - but in the meantime - we all have to do a better job of connecting with our kids - which has ZERO to do with being their friend btw. Kids need 30 second hugs at least once a day and lots of sustained eye contact from their parents - otherwise they will get that connection from other idiot kids - the blind leading the blind.

Also, we have to double down on our local community awareness not other states etc. Everything starts locally.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

It's been on a steady incline since the introduction of social media - and we are only beginning take any action. The human brain isn't evolved to handle most of these new technologies and they have really taken parents and communities eyes off of the ball, so to speak. I think it's getting better - but in the meantime - we all have to do a better job of connecting with our kids - which has ZERO to do with being their friend btw. Kids need 30 second hugs at least once a day and lots of sustained eye contact from their parents - otherwise they will get that connection from other idiot kids - the blind leading the blind.

Also, we have to double down on our local community awareness not other states etc. Everything starts locally.

I don't disagree at all. All valid points! I see a huge difference between how things were during my childhood and how things are with today's children. Social media has truly ruined people. There's a reason these social media execs don't allow their kids to spend too much time online.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

What type of behavior does he still exhibit?

He's turned into everything we're not. He has abandoned the "church" and become a racist. We can't even talk anymore for more than about 2 minutes before he starts into his rants. He's not violent or anything, just spews hate. He really needs to grow up!

We were having an argument when he was around 16 or so about his future. He said he didn't want what I had. I asked what he meant by that and what did I have? He said he didn't know, but he didn't want it! He won that; he has no family, no career, no property other than a very old Chevy Cavalier and most importantly, no relationship with God. At least he supports himself; well, after sticking us with his college loan (I foolishly co-signed for the loan).

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

He's turned into everything we're not. He has abandoned the "church" and become a racist. We can't even talk anymore for more than about 2 minutes before he starts into his rants. He's not violent or anything, just spews hate. He really needs to grow up!

We were having an argument when he was around 16 or so about his future. He said he didn't want what I had. I asked what he meant by that and what did I have? He said he didn't know, but he didn't want it! He won that; he has no family, no career, no property other than a very old Chevy Cavalier and most importantly, no relationship with God. At least he supports himself; well, after sticking us with his college loan (I foolishly co-signed for the loan).

Really sad what you're going through with your son. I can somewhat understand, in that my wife, and I, went through something similar with one of my step-sons. My wife finally accepted that their personalities clashed, and explained to him that they could not communicate, unless he acts more mature. Best thing to do is distance yourself from his ideas, and receive him only when he will accepts your standards. In other words, let God humble him, and live your own life in peace. This does not mean you don't love him, but don't let him drag you (and perhaps your wife) down his sad path. Sad that some people believe themselves so entitled, as if the world owes them a living. Rather comical, until it's not.

[floridaorange]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

He's turned into everything we're not. He has abandoned the "church" and become a racist. We can't even talk anymore for more than about 2 minutes before he starts into his rants. He's not violent or anything, just spews hate. He really needs to grow up!

We were having an argument when he was around 16 or so about his future. He said he didn't want what I had. I asked what he meant by that and what did I have? He said he didn't know, but he didn't want it! He won that; he has no family, no career, no property other than a very old Chevy Cavalier and most importantly, no relationship with God. At least he supports himself; well, after sticking us with his college loan (I foolishly co-signed for the loan).

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

He's turned into everything we're not. He has abandoned the "church" and become a racist. We can't even talk anymore for more than about 2 minutes before he starts into his rants. He's not violent or anything, just spews hate. He really needs to grow up!

We were having an argument when he was around 16 or so about his future. He said he didn't want what I had. I asked what he meant by that and what did I have? He said he didn't know, but he didn't want it! He won that; he has no family, no career, no property other than a very old Chevy Cavalier and most importantly, no relationship with God. At least he supports himself; well, after sticking us with his college loan (I foolishly co-signed for the loan).

Somewhere along the line someone taught him to be fearful - as i'm sure you already know. Could be an ideological possession by online propaganda - likely both. My guess is something happened he feels deep shame about and hast told anyone. Shame is the perfect catalyst for the trajectory your describing. All you can control are your intentions and your prayers for your son. It's never - ever - too late to break the chains of ignorance or ideological possession - and it is a possession - some outside influence took control of your sons soul. Underneath is pain, fear and perhaps as I mentioned shame. If you can do a guys trip to a location he's interested in - my suggestion is to do a lot more listening and a lot less talking - more loving. Good luck and God bless.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by rwheels

Really sad what you're going through with your son. I can somewhat understand, in that my wife, and I, went through something similar with one of my step-sons. My wife finally accepted that their personalities clashed, and explained to him that they could not communicate, unless he acts more mature. Best thing to do is distance yourself from his ideas, and receive him only when he will accepts your standards. In other words, let God humble him, and live your own life in peace. This does not mean you don't love him, but don't let him drag you (and perhaps your wife) down his sad path. Sad that some people believe themselves so entitled, as if the world owes them a living. Rather comical, until it's not.

Exactly what we've been doing. We "talk" on Mother's Day, Father's Day and our birthdays. We haven't seen him since my MIL died 3 years ago. The ball is totally in his court. I've called him my 2X4 kid for a long time.

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Somewhere along the line someone taught him to be fearful - as I'm sure you already know. Could be an ideological possession by online propaganda - likely both. My guess is something happened he feels deep shame about and hast told anyone. Shame is the perfect catalyst for the trajectory your describing. All you can control are your intentions and your prayers for your son. It's never - ever - too late to break the chains of ignorance or ideological possession - and it is a possession - some outside influence took control of your sons soul. Underneath is pain, fear and perhaps as I mentioned shame. If you can do a guys trip to a location he's interested in - my suggestion is to do a lot more listening and a lot less talking - more loving. Good luck and God bless.

I think college really screwed him up. He came home from his 1st summer after philosophy classes with totally bizarre ideas. His initial plan was a psychology or history degree and some idiot liberal "teacher" steered him to philosophy. We call it his paper-or-plastic degree. It's not that he isn't a smart kid; he's very intelligent. But as the Bible says, (paraphrase) intelligence without love is useless. We just have to wait for him to come around.

[floridaorange]

Ball is always in the parents court - period.

Love is an action and sometimes takes more work than we realize. He may be searching for bottom - hell, many of us had to reach bottom before we were ready for a personal relationship with Jesus.

[________]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Ball is always in the parents court - period.

Love is an action and sometimes takes more work than we realize. He may be searching for bottom - hell, many of us had to reach bottom before we were ready for a personal relationship with Jesus.

As a parent, and someone who struggles with a parent who thinks “the ball is in my court”, I agree 100% with you.

As a father, I can never say “the ball is in my son’s court”. Ever.

Not trying to be judgemental as I don’t have a 40 year old son so I have no idea. But ideally reaching out as a parent regardless of differences in political aspirations or ideas is what love is all about.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Ball is always in the parents court - period.

Love is an action and sometimes takes more work than we realize. He may be searching for bottom - hell, many of us had to reach bottom before we were ready for a personal relationship with Jesus.

Completely agree with you on this. We, as parents set their foundation. Unfortunately, this is what I see (and I must admit, that I am not innocent); in raising children, we take the path of least resistance in that we
entertain them with TV (old days), and later it was video games. Today it is the tablet, and phone. Hence a child's foundation is based on what the media offers. Also, in the old days, we had on, and off, buttons (), which are rarely used anymore, it seems. I believe that we can lay blame to any entity, but the responsibility to find truth remains our own. As an example, Acts 17:11
... and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

As a challenge, try weaning off any media for even a week. And we call ourselves free.

[floridaorange]

The internet is one massive marketing tool used to reflect back to you your insecurities so you'll buy something new. Kids have no business online. Particularly unsupervised. It's like handing them a loaded gun without any training according to psychologists. The propaganda side of the internet wants you to believe nobody is in control so authoritarians can own you ideologically. Pornography alone can ruin a kids mind while in college. Causing plenty of shame that can work it's way into other aspects of the young persons identity.

[ezaircon4jc]

Don't misunderstand the ball being in his court. The problem is we can't have a civil conversation with him. If we don't cater to his rants, he has nothing to say. Hard to believe, but other than our last name, we have nothing in common. We've called and he doesn't answer. We leave a message and he doesn't call back. That's what I mean; we reach out, he doesn't respond.

Strangely enough, he's about 90 minutes from my sister and her family. They had him over for Thanksgiving & Christmas and he was a totally different person. He told us one thing about a future plan and my sister a totally different story. With us he's the definition of belligerent, with them, charming.

This probably isn't the place for this...

[________]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Don't misunderstand the ball being in his court. The problem is we can't have a civil conversation with him. If we don't cater to his rants, he has nothing to say. Hard to believe, but other than our last name, we have nothing in common. We've called and he doesn't answer. We leave a message and he doesn't call back. That's what I mean; we reach out, he doesn't respond.

Strangely enough, he's about 90 minutes from my sister and her family. They had him over for Thanksgiving & Christmas and he was a totally different person. He told us one thing about a future plan and my sister a totally different story. With us he's the definition of belligerent, with them, charming.

This probably isn't the place for this...

Yeah, agreed.
Sorry to hear nonetheless! Family is never easy

[Lady Jane]

Police officer unaware of imminent danger, Chicago, 1959.

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

Police officer unaware of imminent danger, Chicago, 1959.


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Oh I don't know, I think he's very aware. Look at the way he's keeping an eye on them.

[UncleWede]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that I took my pig (circa 1979 shop class in junior high) to a cop friend to resurface and then seal?

[ezaircon4jc]

How would you LEOs handle this...

We were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday and I was, as usual, carrying. For some reason I reached around and felt my back pocket and noticed my wallet missing. I thought FOR SURE I got pickpocketed. I went to one of the sheriff deputies that was there and privately explained my position. I was extremely paranoid that I was carrying without a permit even though I have one. The deputy didn't seem concerned at all that I was carrying without a permit and just wanted me to go to my car and see if it had fallen out there; it hadn't. He gave me his phone number and wanted me to call after we got home and I had checked to see if my wallet was there. THANKFULLY it was! I called and got his voicemail so just left a message. I guess I was hoping he would escort me to my car so I wouldn't get in Dutch with any other LEOs. I was SHOCKED that he didn't seem to care much that I was armed without a permit. San Diego County deputies seem to be very CCW positive.

Thoughts?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

How would you LEOs handle this...

We were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday and I was, as usual, carrying. For some reason I reached around and felt my back pocket and noticed my wallet missing. I thought FOR SURE I got pickpocketed. I went to one of the sheriff deputies that was there and privately explained my position. I was extremely paranoid that I was carrying without a permit even though I have one. The deputy didn't seem concerned at all that I was carrying without a permit and just wanted me to go to my car and see if it had fallen out there; it hadn't. He gave me his phone number and wanted me to call after we got home and I had checked to see if my wallet was there. THANKFULLY it was! I called and got his voicemail so just left a message. I guess I was hoping he would escort me to my car so I wouldn't get in Dutch with any other LEOs. I was SHOCKED that he didn't seem to care much that I was armed without a permit. San Diego County deputies seem to be very CCW positive.

Thoughts?

San Diego, San Bernardino, Orange County and Riverside County Deputies are CCW-positive because those counties issue. Los Angeles County Deputies don't really care, but CCW holders aren't encountered as much in Los Angeles County either.

Given your situation, I wouldn't have sweated you. It's easy to confirm whether or not you've been issued a CCW.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

How would you LEOs handle this...

We were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday and I was, as usual, carrying. For some reason I reached around and felt my back pocket and noticed my wallet missing. I thought FOR SURE I got pickpocketed. I went to one of the sheriff deputies that was there and privately explained my position. I was extremely paranoid that I was carrying without a permit even though I have one. The deputy didn't seem concerned at all that I was carrying without a permit and just wanted me to go to my car and see if it had fallen out there; it hadn't. He gave me his phone number and wanted me to call after we got home and I had checked to see if my wallet was there. THANKFULLY it was! I called and got his voicemail so just left a message. I guess I was hoping he would escort me to my car so I wouldn't get in Dutch with any other LEOs. I was SHOCKED that he didn't seem to care much that I was armed without a permit. San Diego County deputies seem to be very CCW positive.

Thoughts?

Normally, bad guys don't ask cops for help. Since you were asking the cop for help, you probably hit his radar as a good guy and not a person to worry about.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Normally, bad guys don't ask cops for help. Since you were asking the cop for help, you probably hit his radar as a good guy and not a person to worry about.

I beg to differ. But you're right, these are not normal.

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