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Hats off to Tesla, seriously.
But in all seriousness, their cars are a bit overrated by techie journalists. I used to work there briefly in college too and my opinion has not changed of their clients.... They are a bunch of techie nerds, not real car guys/gals. Pretty insufferable group once they get online. |
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Seems like it kind of runs out of steam when it gets above 130kph?
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This times 1000. I'm not trying to drive that far when airplains exist.
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Yet over the last two years, I make a drive from Dallas to Santa Fe a few times a year and I've started seeing more and more Teslas on that 640 mile drive. |
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If we bought an eTron, it would work for 99% of my wife's needs and my car would accommodate the 1% it wouldn't be ideally suited for, long road trips. And honestly, with fast charging, this argument, as baseless as it is, probably only has three to five years left. Get it while you can! |
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01-22-2019, 04:48 PM | #35 |
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So 1% of the time you can rent a car. Ruling out a car because it can't do a thing you might do every few years seems silly. My 135i can't haul plywood. Shouldn't have bought it I guess. Wait...no...that's why I bought the truck, too.
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Who ruled out a car? In 2017 you couldn't rent a 1997 Z3. I guess you could buy one for the trip and then sell it when you got back, but that's seem like a real pain in the ass. Oh, and I had one already.
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That's simply not something I'd ever desire to do, but to each their own. |
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Good for you! But what does having "done well in life" have anything to do with the desire to take a road trip? LOL
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And you're right. You can't rent a 1997 Z3, but you can rent a lot of nicer cars. Similar use-case arguments can be made agaisnt something like a Z3 in terms of 'lack of funtion'. Not exactly a spacious family car. ![]() Obviously a Tesla isn't for you if every car you own needs to be able to drive across the country on a randomly determined route. I still think that's like arguing against buying a 1997 Z3 because once a year you need to haul firewood to your house for the winter.
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I get the point, you can just own or rent an ICE to take a road trip vs. a Tesla, but I'd counter, renting a car for a two-week road trip is actually quite expensive (I checked into a Mustang convertible) considering you have a perfectly good car at home (I have 4 to choose from - all different to serve a specific use-case). Airplanes over a Tesla for interstate travel is a good example of a use case if you are trying to get to point B at a specific time. My wife has kept the Z3 for 21 years now, both of us think it is a nice car ![]()
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And wait a minute, having owned a Z3 M Coupe, first, they aren't comfortable for more than about two hours and second, that stupid 12g tank doesn't really give you much range if driven aggressively. Reminds me of a friend of mine who rode a BMW and another who had a Ducati. They'd race from Dallas to Austin, the Duck going flat out, refilling often and the BMW just cruising along. They usually got there at about the same time. |
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Even with a Bilstein/H&R sport suspension, the Z3 is quite comfortable. More comfortable than my Honda Valkyrie, which we've taken out West... twice. The Z3 may have a tiny bit more luggage capacity ![]()
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