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05-22-2020, 04:15 PM | #2 |
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Sad to say, but I really do agree with Mark on this one.
My favorite part of the video: "[Says Sarcastically] Wow! I know you're in sport mode because I can hear fake engine noise."
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Hmm. To me this is by far the dumbest and most hateful review I have seen in a while...
Really, the guy is understanding when somebody keyed the car? Start at 12:35 for his rationale. The whole price discussion is so overplayed; everyone on this forum actually agrees but it doesn't diminish the car itself. People can decide what a purchase is worth to them. Same with the interior. Yes, it is just like every other BMW (with better materials). Not a complaint you hear on a $140k X6M which follows the same template. Same for the fake engine noise. Somehow this is an 8 Series issue. |
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Even an inline 6 as good as BMW's isn't enough to move a heavy GT like this around as the author might want, nor will it provide the aural delight the mighty V8 does...
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He's a bit harsh but isn't lying. The price is even more appalling when you realize how steep depreciation is on these.
I do disagree when he said the 911 is the de facto coupe choice above $100k. Not everybody wants something as low and stiff as a 911, that's where the 8-series comes in.
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But I lease because I can write off my car through my business. I'm paying $1199 for the M850 (130k sticker, including almost 9% NY tax). You can't get touch a 911 lease for anywhere near that. |
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That review is idiotic. Most of the things the bald dude says are so contradictory. I mean 8 series is a douche car but then they praise the 911... seriously... if there's a douche car its the 911. Douche and porsche go together. Also, the 2 cars are not in the same league or target the same buyer.
The only thing I agree on is the price and that's were the problem lies. The 8 series is a souped up 5 series. Prettier but basically the same car underneath. And common pricing logic says a coupe or convertible version of a sedan will cost 5-10k more as it is a emotional purchase. So whats with that BMW? 540i starts at 60k, 840i starts at 90k... M550i starts at 78k, M850 starts at 112k... I mean that's just crazy. As much as I love my m850, it is not a 120k car. A 120k has a more special interior, better ergonomics (especially driver digital screen customization) and surely a better sound system... BMW can't sell them because they overpriced them. They really should fire their entire marketing research team. |
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I didn't think the 40i engine would work in the 8. Too much weight and RWD only. The diesel works well as it's XDrive and has loads of torque. M850i obviously better still but means spending quite a bit extra. |
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Comparing an 8 series to a 911 is idiotic to begin with, one is a large GT and the other more of a sports car...apples and tangerines.
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I mean, both are 2+2 coupes that can be used on a daily basis and cost over $100k. While they may not be direct competitors and share different characteristics such as a rear vs front engine and so on, both are essentially marketed as the brand's flagship sports car/GT car, they are likely paired together more than one would think though. My Sales Advisor said he's had a hard time trying to get 8 coupe/convertible sales (particularly the M850/M8) because of vehicles like the 911 or even the E and S-Class coupe which he said most of his potential customers would bring up when looking at the car.
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Well suddenly I guess I feel a whole lot better about building a loaded 540i and saving almost 30 grand. Sure didn't sound like Mr Geese thought the 8 series drove much better.
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I understand, but using price as one of the primary reasons is where the disconnect can begin...just wish they'd make these comparos using vehicles better suited for them.
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Not much holding back. Perhaps everyone needs to get over RRPs. At least here in the U.K. no one is buying this car cash, it leases very well if you Choi's the right Qtr to opt in. I do agree in general nice 3 series interior, 8 series interior, doesn't seem like its worth twice the money though.
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