[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by A_

I know what I felt and what I feel now. All it takes is a higher oil temperature and the computer reduces boost and you feel it accelerate slower in some speed range.
The soft in the M6 F13 575ps euro5 was very good, but the soft in the M6 F13 600ps euro6b was very poor. The car would accelerate, then you could feel it start to slow down at 160km/h, then at 190km/h it started to accelerate faster again. And this was all due to the euro6b emission standards. Only in the new generation m5/m8 f90/f92 have they dealt with euro6d and it is very fast.

BMW refused to acknowledge my complaint that the first m6 was faster and the new LCI is much slower. They said that was the homologation and they could not change the software. In the end I bought a box with ‘ess tuning’ and improved the performance.

I am not the only one feeling this

[Vic55]

Its sad that he said it wont last long ...

And with his prior/current stable

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

I am not the only one feeling this

Lots of confusion here LOL
I mean his comments on F90 vs G90

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Lots of confusion here LOL
I mean his comments on F90 vs G90

When you drive this car it is better daily then the f90 or f92 in many ways
It lost the sporty edge little bit but who buys the f90 or f92 as sports car?!
And again every one who drives this car feels it is faster then the previous generation although on papers it is slower and i think this is due to the torque
So far i like it except the exhaust and loosing soft closing doors and few functions
I think it is a better daily in every way

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

When you drive this car it is better daily then the f90 or f92 in many ways
It lost the sporty edge little bit but who buys the f90 or f92 as sports car?!
And again every one who drives this car feels it is faster then the previous generation although on papers it is slower and i think this is due to the torque
So far i like it except the exhaust and loosing soft closing doors and few functions
I think it is a better daily in every way

Actually I bought F92 as sport car and I feel it’s really sport car with luxury options and that’s why I bought it again LOL.
I think you are happy with your G90 and this is the only important thing here so enjoy your ride☺️

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Actually I bought F92 as sport car and I feel it’s really sport car with luxury options and that’s why I bought it again LOL.
I think you are happy with your G90 and this is the only important thing here so enjoy your ride☺️

Hehe
Thank you and enjoy thr f92 it is a great car and i had the M8 in 2 flavors coupe and conv and i think this car is better as a convertible and i miss it and the negine sound top down
At the end of the day as you said the most important thing if it makes you happy and you like the car this what really matters wether a Gt or sports car.....
Enjoy your M8 in good health

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Hehe
Thank you and enjoy thr f92 it is a great car and i had the M8 in 2 flavors coupe and conv and i think this car is better as a convertible and i miss it and the negine sound top down
At the end of the day as you said the most important thing if it makes you happy and you like the car this what really matters wether a Gt or sports car.....
Enjoy your M8 in good health

Thanks.
I like M8 Coupe more than Convertible and Gran Coupe because Coupe is smaller/lighter resulting more nimble than the other two.
As you know F92 has a fantastic dynamic.

[A_]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

I am not the only one feeling this

When I first got into the M6 F13 600ps LCI and drove it I felt the car had improved 0-60mph traction compared to the M6 F13 575ps Prelci. I was convinced it would be a bit quicker. The Prelci I could do 100-200 in 6.6-6.7s. I took my first measurements through the Racelogic device and was shocked. The first measurement showed 7.8s. I felt cheated by the BMW company. To spend 200,000 euros and have such crap. Luckily I took more measurements and the best was 7.1s but it still wasn't 6.6 or 6.7s. BMW pissed me off so I bought a box from ESS Tuning for $500 and improved the performance.

I am very happy with the M8 Coupé. It looks very sporty and catches the eye. It's wide and low. The interior is perfect with carbon bucket seats. When I picked it up in the showroom I didn't think the car was that fast. For me it is perfect. The last M5 I had was an M5 E60.

For me the M5 G90 has a few things I don't like:
- too heavy
- too slow
- no leather on the dashboard
- no soft close
- cheaply materials in the interior
- m5 wants to be a comfortable limousine, but I prefer the 7 series g70

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by A_

For me the M5 G90 has a few things I don't like:
- too heavy
- too slow
- no leather on the dashboard
- no soft close
- cheaply materials in the interior
- m5 wants to be a comfortable limousine, but I prefer the 7 series g70

Agree with you except number 2
I feel either love or hate from folks to G90.
The fact is:
G90 IS NOT too slow but not faster than F90/F92 Competition…
Instead I have to add:
G90 is big, long, tall . Kind of mini SUV LOL.
Compare to M8 Coupe( which is not Apple to Apple) is 6” taller , 8” longer and wheels are 2” bigger.

[A_]

Yes you are right. The G90 is not too slow but for an official 720+ power it should be faster. F90/F92 measured on European dynamometers show 690+700+ e.g. M5 CS
The other thing is that the new 5/G90 series is tall and narrow. In my opinion, the 7 series G70 has better proportions

[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

Am a new buyer and had almost ALL options available to me and budget was not a concern. I ended up with the 8-series (B8 specifically) and the decision was soooooo easy to pick the 8-series (the difficult part was choosing which variant of the 8-series, but choosing the 8 over all other models was an easy decision).

8-series right now is the pinnacle of all BMWs: It has ID7 and physical buttons…..people think it’s a disadvantage, but try the ID8 and you’ll appreciate the ID7. Gosh … I HATE the ID8 in our X7 and X5…. ID7 is truly outstanding and the physical buttons is a big plus. For those who are worried about screen size, one can buy the larger screen but I started to like how nice and flush the smaller screen blends with the dashbaord.

The styling of the 8-series, to me, is sooooo unique. The 8-series (GC) cabin is also larger than 5-series, which is an advantage. I can use the 8-series as a family car, but am not sure this is possible with the 5-series (granted that the limit is 4 adults so there is that). Never tried to fit a baby seat in the middle of the rear seat though, but I feel it might work for 0-3 years old. The weight is just perfect for it’s size (not too heavy and not light either). I don’t see anything in the 5-series that I’d want in my B8. For those who track their cars, maybe it’s different, but I never track my cars but I do like the power and torque to be readily available on highway.

I find it funny when people say money is no object and they get a bmw.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by rdown1976

I find it funny when people say money is no object and they get a bmw.

Actually for people who get BMW 8 Series and accept +$60k depreciation, money is not an object othewise with this money they would get 911 to hold the price but you know what? I took M8 over 911 and I know I am gonig to lose $60k…
To me M8 is more practical and makes me more happy

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by rdown1976

I find it funny when people say money is no object and they get a bmw.

Am not obligated to prove anything to you. Stay on topic and be a positive contributor!

[carsandwings1974]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Actually for people who get BMW 8 Series and accept +$60k depreciation, money is not an object othewise with this money they would get 911 to hold the price but you know what? I took M8 over 911 and I know I am gonig to lose $60k…
To me M8 is more practical and makes me more happy

It is practical, after a fashion!

This is what I've struggled with the most, although I think by buying a two-year old F92 at $90k instead of the $156k sticker price, I won't feel quite as much pain... I hope.

The F92's demise is purely sticker related in my opinion. I've owned a lot of sports cars and luxury vehicles in my life - this is an outstanding car, probably the best all-rounder I've owned. But its price tag puts it in a category in which it doesn't compete so favorably. There's also some category confusion within BMW. I'm new to the BMW universe and found the option of a M4 Competition with nearly the same performance as the M8 Competition, for a much lower price tag, pretty confusing. It only pencils out when you buy a slightly used model. I could never justify a new M8 Competition.

Quite honestly I'd really like to be in a 911 GT3 or McLaren 720S, but those are not daily drivers while the F92 can be used so quite respectably. After the delta of a 5-7 year old GT3 plus the need to buy another daily driver (currently a Tesla Model 3 which I'm gifting to my daughter) it was just too spendy for a 50-year old dude with two kids in college and four other vehicles already.

So the M8 will get me to the supercar era of my performance car ownership lifetime, which has been a goal for a long time. The M8 is a supercar killer, no doubt, but not a supercar.

The 911's ability to hold value almost got me into one instead of the M8. Having to keep it in the garage half the year is what got me into the M8. I'm already enjoying driving this thing in the rain, crappy road conditions, etc. Who cares. I'm going to enjoy this car and not stress over the everyday dings and scratches it will inevitably receive. There's a great amount of pleasure in that lack of stress.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by carsandwings1974

It is practical, after a fashion!

This is what I've struggled with the most, although I think by buying a two-year old F92 at $90k instead of the $156k sticker price, I won't feel quite as much pain... I hope.

The F92's demise is purely sticker related in my opinion. I've owned a lot of sports cars and luxury vehicles in my life - this is an outstanding car, probably the best all-rounder I've owned. But its price tag puts it in a category in which it doesn't compete so favorably. There's also some category confusion within BMW. I'm new to the BMW universe and found the option of a M4 Competition with nearly the same performance as the M8 Competition, for a much lower price tag, pretty confusing. It only pencils out when you buy a slightly used model. I could never justify a new M8 Competition.

Quite honestly I'd really like to be in a 911 GT3 or McLaren 720S, but those are not daily drivers while the F92 can be used so quite respectably. After the delta of a 5-7 year old GT3 plus the need to buy another daily driver (currently a Tesla Model 3 which I'm gifting to my daughter) it was just too spendy for a 50-year old dude with two kids in college and four other vehicles already.

So the M8 will get me to the supercar era of my performance car ownership lifetime, which has been a goal for a long time. The M8 is a supercar killer, no doubt, but not a supercar.

The 911's ability to hold value almost got me into one instead of the M8. Having to keep it in the garage half the year is what got me into the M8. I'm already enjoying driving this [...]

M8 does not belong to any of those car’s categories…
911 GT3? McLaren 720s? BMW M4?
I think you already mentioned the superiority of M8 over all of them.
My only coment is M8 vs M4 is like 911 vs 718.
And I believe M8 is supercar unless you have definition of supercar in your book and I would like to know about it.
M8 is a high performane highway cruiser sport/luxury GT car can be driven 365 days of a year as DD everywhere everytime and at the same time on the track.
Maybe I’m bias
Dr Thrillride

[A_]

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...killer-118426/

Markus Flasch, recently appointed president of BMW's M Division, has revealed in a teleconference with the local motoring press that the BMW M8 will be more than just a coupe version of the M5.

For the moment at least, the M8 will be the flagship of the range, Flasch said, and the BMW exec was quick to quote journalists who had driven the car already to place it in the proper context.

"The first journalists that have driven this car compare it to the Porsche Turbo; they call it 'a Porsche Turbo killer'," Flasch revealed.

"This car is the ultimate performance machine that we will offer."

"The centre of gravity in M8 is 24mm lower than the M5. You also sit lower in an M8, so for ergonomics, it's also different.

"We even made the front much stiffer and the steering... feels different."

"The M8 will be the fastest ever BMW M Car on the Nurburgring Nordschleife [northern loop]," he said.


I wonder what the M8's real lap time is on the Nordschleife with a bmw factory driver.
I believe him, my stock M8 does a repeatable 100-200 in 6.3-6.5s and a couple of times from a stop start from lights (no LC) the porsche turbo 992 and 991 had a problem with my m8

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by A_

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/bmw-m8-will-be-a-porsche-turbo-killer-118426/

Markus Flasch, recently appointed president of BMW's M Division, has revealed in a teleconference with the local motoring press that the BMW M8 will be more than just a coupe version of the M5.

For the moment at least, the M8 will be the flagship of the range, Flasch said, and the BMW exec was quick to quote journalists who had driven the car already to place it in the proper context.

"The first journalists that have driven this car compare it to the Porsche Turbo; they call it 'a Porsche Turbo killer'," Flasch revealed.

"This car is the ultimate performance machine that we will offer."

"The centre of gravity in M8 is 24mm lower than the M5. You also sit lower in an M8, so for ergonomics, it's also different.

"We even made the front much stiffer and the steering... feels different."

"The M8 will be the fastest ever BMW M Car on the Nurburgring Nordschleife [northern loop]," he said.


I wonder what the M8's real lap time is on the Nordschleife with a bmw factory driver.
I believe him, my stock M8 does a repeatable 100-200 in 6.3-6.5s and a couple of times from a stop start from lights (no LC) the porsche turbo 992 and 991 had a problem with my m8

I’m sure with proper tire ( Cup2/R) M8 will be faster than M5CS and G8x CX over the ring.

[carsandwings1974]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

M8 does not belong to any of those car’s categories…
911 GT3? McLaren 720s? BMW M4?
I think you already mentioned the superiority of M8 over all of them.

I agree the car does not belong in those categories, but price-wise it flirts with the 911 Turbo (not GT3).

I don't think I'd call the M8 "superior" necessarily to the GT3 or 720S. Everyone's measuring stick is the 911, and the GT3 performs in supercar territory in my opinion. McLaren is (subjectively, per your remark) a supercar, although I think their recent base model introductions don't quite fit into the category.

My only coment is M8 vs M4 is like 911 vs 718.

Maybe - I think the gulf between the M8 and the M4 is a little closer than the gap between the second two you mentioned.

And I believe M8 is supercar unless you have definition of supercar in your book and I would like to know about it.

No, I don't have a definition, just a gut feeling. I think most would put the 720S or GT3 in supercar territory. I don't think too many would place the M8 there. It has a different role - luxury performance/grand tourer. You don't use those other cars for that function and it is one of the main reasons I went with the M8. I want to actually drive this car and enjoy it year-round. The "supercars" I mentioned would be carefully garage kept and driven somewhat rarely by comparison.

M8 is a high performane highway cruiser sport/luxury GT car can be driven 365 days of a year as DD everywhere everytime and at the same time on the track.
Maybe I’m bias

Oh, I took the words out of your mouth! Or maybe you took mine?

I'm an M8 Comp coupe owner. I really, REALLY like the car. I bought it as a daily driver for the same reasons you said! Going back to the original thrust of my comment, I just think it's too expensive brand new and other cars will pull in some drivers at price points near that. BMW pulling the Coupe might reflect this pricing strategy challenge. Just my hunch.

[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

Am not obligated to prove anything to you. Stay on topic and be a positive contributor!

Wow, haha. Never said you needed to. Just find your bragging funny.

[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Actually for people who get BMW 8 Series and accept +$60k depreciation, money is not an object othewise with this money they would get 911 to hold the price but you know what? I took M8 over 911 and I know I am gonig to lose $60k…
To me M8 is more practical and makes me more happy

That may be the dumbest thing I have read on here. Money is an object for everyone.

If money isn’t an option for you, go buy yourself a F5 Revolution.

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Sir we need pics and thanks for the tangible update as well.

Here you go
The pic do not give this thing justice
Especially the rear end (looks much better in real life)
I have rear reflector body colored coming and tint

[garttx]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Here you go
The pic do not give this thing justice
Especially the rear end (looks much better in real life)
I have rear reflector body colored coming and tint

Great looking car. I really like the choice of rims and your colors. Excited for you!