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I recall the famous insider here on Bimmerpost telling us all the new 8 was lighter than the 6 and a genuine 911 competitor. Hmm. I think we see how that worked out. I know it's not the point of these cars but it blows my engineers mind how BMW manage the reverse Tardis with the 6er 8er coupes and your restrict the car to 2 seater market vs the smaller 4er which with comfort can seat 4 and certainly fits the 2+2 sporty dad family market. Opportunity missed and I'll get flamed by owners, the interior is not special or different enough to justify triple figure RRPs vs my entry level little 1 series FWD XDrive poopbox.
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The new 911 is light years ahead of everything It's an absolute glorious car
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07-14-2020, 02:46 AM | #91 |
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As if no one saw this coming. Regardless of the COVID situation.
The 8er was always a very niche series. The Coupe and Cabrio even more so. They're cars the size of a five-seat sedan with room for only two people. If you have a third or a fourth passenger they'd probably be more comfortable hitching a ride in the trunk than sitting in those claustrophobic rear seats. So you got the niche of the niche. Then you have the M models. Same story, but more expensive and more 'exclusive'. You're now talking about the niche of the niche of the niche. These things are exceptionally expensive here in Europe. I can't remember the last time I saw an 8er on the road. I've been keeping an eye on the second hand market for the 8er and the list just keeps growing and growing. Only the Gran Coupes disappear from the list (way more 840i than m850i), but the Coupes and Cabrios just keep piling up. Don't get me wrong, I find the 8ers exceptionally beautiful cars. But they were never going to sell like hot cakes with these prices. BMW gravely overestimated everything. |
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The only constant in automotive world is change. The decision to drop M8 Coupe can be easily traced to wider cost cutting efforts. This car is just not profitable in the view of unachieved sales targets.
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So from reading the replies, BMW has overstepped their pricing by going FWD and asian mass-market manufacturers solved the problem by introducing luxury brands.
Should we expect more Rolls Royce performance models in various body styles in the future? |
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Even here in „rich“ Switzerland where people like to buy expensive toys, the 8 coupe and convertible is rarely seen and not only the M version (I’ve never seen a M here at all).
But I always found it too little special, visually and also technically. I mean, people are still flocking to my six-year-old car and want to know everything. Don't think that happens to many 8 series drivers. The car has no innovative flair. But that‘s what people are looking for now, especially the well-off. |
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It's a 167k ish car. It's not that great looking for that price. Is anyone really surprised? Now dealers will be charging 2k a month for these beasts.
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I've seen a couple of M8s in the wild. That's also why these things are dirt cheap on the secondary market and you might be able to get a good discount over sticker for the unsold ones.
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It's already happening. A buddy who's been driving M6es had his car in the shop. He had six months to go on his lease. The dealer was all over him to swap for a $160k M8 they had had for a while. My buddy said he'd do it only if his lease payment stayed exactly the same - just under $2k/month. It took a couple days of hand wringing, but the dealer eventually gave in and my buddy drove home in the M8. Straight swap. No money contributed.
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I agree. Just bought a mustang BULLITT and it looks great next to my 2016 6 series coupe.
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Agreed! The new 4 series could've been a heck of a car with a regular grill. That atrocious grill is going to kill it before it even is produced.
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Pretty much this. They have model dilution (making too many models in general) on top of making ugly cars now.
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