F1 2021: Dutch GP - Zandvoort (Sep 5)

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 10:33 AM

Yeah hammy in for tyres for F/L attempt lol

///M Power-Belgium · 09-05-2021, 10:33 AM

MAX = P1 !!!

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

BOT fastest lap ?!?!

HAM in pit !!!

1 lap to go ...

We know the WINNER !!!!

Waiting for your 33 poster my friend

///M Power-Belgium · 09-05-2021, 10:35 AM

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Waiting for your 33 poster my friend

Already done my friend . Just look above

GuidoK · 09-05-2021, 10:36 AM

What a race.
Some really close racing, also some very interesting overtakes.

And no crashes! No dirty tricks!
Only 2 retired on technical problems.

Max 100% deserved this win!

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX = P1 !!!

Bang on time

Autobacs · 09-05-2021, 10:38 AM

ALO the Old Fox!

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Already done my friend . Just look above

Tell me what's the Orange Army doing or do I need to ask??

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 10:43 AM

Oh yes

wjjkoevoets · 09-05-2021, 10:48 AM

What a race! Hamilton was amazing, Max was amazing, Bottas showing some teeth (finally!), Perez trying to win as many places as he could.

And of course the crazy orange army

yco · 09-05-2021, 10:50 AM

well done to Red Bull and Max.. they done everything right..

things are not looking bad for Mercs next week.. lets see how things will go in Monza..

thanks to Perez there were not much action except his moves but still a good weekend.. without crashes..

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Already done my friend . Just look above

Will be glass of wine to celebrate my friend, dinner of lamb coming up now.

///M Power-Belgium · 09-05-2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

What a race.
Some really close racing, also some very interesting overtakes.

And no crashes! No dirty tricks!
Only 2 retired on technical problems.

Max 100% deserved this win!

Over this weekend , Mercedes never had the chance for dirty tricks !

Because MAX was "Untouchable"

///M Power-Belgium · 09-05-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Will be glass of wine to celebrate my friend, dinner of lamb coming up now.

Cheers my friend !

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Cheers my friend !

Should really be 225 for Max with that fastest lap at Spa but then it's ''Mercafia'' AND minus the Merc points for having illegal cooling plenum in last two races.

///M Power-Belgium · 09-05-2021, 11:22 AM

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Should really be 225 for Max with that fastest lap at Spa but then it's ''Mercafia'' AND minus the Merc points for having illegal cooling plenum in last two races.

Spot on my friend !

But actually , MAX would lead this WDC with over 300 + points ...

If he wasn't rammed off track by the Merc's at Silverstone and the Hungaroring !
+ as you say by the Mercedes cheating at Silverstone , Hungaroring and Spa !

Ham's WDC would be already over...by now !

MKSixer · 09-05-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

What decision?
That HAM was predominantly at fault for ramming Max off the track?
That VER left room on the inside and that HAM didn't use that room?
That HAM had a racing line that was not going towards the apex of the corner?
Sure.

And that HAM didn't get punished when he overtook LEC on the same spot?
Because he was completely on the inside of the corner as he should be where there was room?
Because he had a racing line that was clipping the apex as he should have?
Sure.

The 10 second penalty. You agree that it was sufficient and that while HAM shared the majority of the blame it was shared with VER.

Excellent!!

M5Rick · 09-05-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Spot on my friend !

But actually , MAX would lead this WDC with over 300 + points ...

If he wasn't rammed off track by the Merc's at Silverstone and the Hungaroring !
+ as you say by the Mercedes cheating at Silverstone , Hungaroring and Spa !

Ham's WDC would be already over...by now !

He seems to have a red carpet laid for him everywhere by Mercafia.
I expect some more dirty tricks from both of those 'characters' in the coming races.

MKSixer · 09-05-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

What a race.
Some really close racing, also some very interesting overtakes.

And no crashes! No dirty tricks!
Only 2 retired on technical problems.

Max 100% deserved this win!

Agreed!

Max and RBR had everything but the kitchen sink thrown at them by Lewis, BOT and Mercedes and countered every move. WELL DONE!!

THIS is Formula One and not the incessant calls we see in this forum.

More of this, please, as a life-long F1 fan.

Cheers-mk

GuidoK · 09-05-2021, 11:35 AM

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it was shared with VER.

Actually the FIA didn't state that, that is your conclusion.
The FIA only stated that HAM was predomiantly to blame. And only he got punished for that.
It could just as well be that the rest was circumstantial. Maybe wind or track conditions or whatever
The FIA doesn't elaborate on that so any elaboration on that is pure speculation and not the FIA's words.
Nobody here can speak for the FIA in that matter. No one on this forum is qualified enough to fill in the blanks the FIA left open in their explanation, so it's best that none of us goes down that road and embarrasses himself.

MKSixer · 09-05-2021, 11:44 AM

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Actually the FIA didn't state that, that is your conclusion.
The FIA only stated that HAM was predomiantly to blame. And only he got punished for that.
It could just as well be that the rest was circumstantial. Maybe wind or track conditions....
The FIA doesn't elaborate on that so any elaboration on that is pure speculation and not the FIA's words.
Nobody here can speak for the FIA in that matter.

Sorry but you are incorrect. In legal terms, predominantly at fault means that fault is shared with another. This is a legal ruling and it wasn't the wind or track conditions which was being adjudicated. It's even in the legal description of the incident: "Incident between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen is being investigated by the stewards." Had track conditions been to blame or a gust of wind, the stewards would have mentioned it. Max shares blame in this as well and it isn't speculative.

GuidoK · 09-05-2021, 11:53 AM

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Over this weekend , Mercedes never had the chance for dirty tricks !

It seems that even BOT gets a little bit tired of those tricks when he refused not to set a fastest lap.

I think he already wants to show to his next team what he can do.

Although Max passed him really really easy on the straight with his little diversion move.

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