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MotorTrend: Plug-In Hybrids? Just Say Hell No
I've been of this belief for a long time, in fact before I leased my Polestar 2 in 2021 I really, really wanted a V60 T8 Recharge. But I quickly saw the limitations that a PHEV would bring: more frequent charging if I want to stay in EV mode, carrying around a second motor (ICE + EV/batteries and all the maintenance required for ICE), for what? An occasional need for a road trip.
To me, the PHEV was the compromise, and it's even more so today. I'm now on my second EV, an iX. I love it. There's no going back. This editor writes it all way better. And I thank them for it. Plug-In Hybrids? Just Say Hell No EVs have progressed. It’s time to ditch the training wheels. https://www.motortrend.com/features/...inion-feature/ Quote:
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Not a PHEV fan here either. You basically need two entire drivetrains, which is too complicated, too much to go wrong, and too expensive. If you really want to save fuel or whatever, either get a regular ol hybrid the same ones Toyota has been making for 25 years now, or go full BEV and skip the in between "one foot in each door" stuff which are all compromises. I don't think BMW actually makes any of the Toyota style hybrids, which is a shame because they're practically unbeatable as far as overall energy efficiency goes. PHEV's are trying to be two different types of cars, and end up being good at neither imho.
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they each have their issues. EV's problem is still the long range issue. Especially if you do 80-90mph on the highway. there's no way im waiting at a station for 20-30 minutes or more to charge when driving home. or planning a trip around a station.
phev main issue is they say is repeated charging and complexity. most companies have some type of separate warranty on it. i think volvo is 8 years / 100k miles and if it drops under 70% before then they change it. same as tesla. the volvo xc60 recharge i rented was silent, you couldn't tell the 4 cylinder was on. using ev mode on a hybrid will cut down on the ice mileage / wear and tear. less maintenance. granted, its still more than an EV. but that seems like a small thing to complain about imo given the above benefits of convenience.
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This topic has been brought up many times in one thread
And I say this again, all of them have their own use case, buy what fits YOUR use case and leave others to make their own choice. It’s not up to you how others spend their money. My wife’s use case fit a PHEV fully and I am looking at some PHEV to replace her F15 X5 -she drives short distances during the week, and can charge at home -EV cost is still way too high, and any governmental supports way too lacking. Depreciation is still too high on most current EV and likely to continue as new technology keeps rendering anything today obsolete -I don’t need to commit to installing a charger which is thousands of extra costs -we live where temps drop below 0 for 5-6 months of the year, where an EV will lose range -charging infrastructures here is still lacking once you step out of any major cities. But you can always find a pump -we do odd road trips on weekends and even though it will cost more fuel to cover that cost, I am not limited to running my trip based on where I can plug in. Of course it’s a comprimise, PHEV is always just a bridge solution until there is a clearer solution to where the future of personal transportation is going.
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