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Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

All vehicles are a reflection of the company which builds them.

Few data points about Cadillac - all in the last year or so:

- April 2018: Cadillac President Johan de Nysschen leaves the company (fired). Johan was a GM outsider. Steve Carlisle, his replacement, is a GM insider (more of the same)

- In 2018, Cadillac sold 11K ATS vehicles vs 45K BMW 3 series. ATS-V and M3 sales are included in these numbers

- In January 2018, newly appointed GM President Mark Reuss told Reuters "we don't have any chances left with taking Cadillac to a really new place"

- Cadillac's Super Cruise system doesn't work well under full sunlight. The system can suddenly shut off "if direct sunlight is stopping a steering-wheel-column-mounted infrared camera from looking at your face".

https://www.autonews.com/technology/...s-super-cruise

Back to the new CT4-V and CT5-V.

These new cars are a complete departure from ATS-V and CTS-V. For example, in 2016 3rd generation CTS-V offered 640 HP.

CT5-V 3.0-liter twin turbo V6 offers 355 horsepower while BMW M340i offers 382 horsepower in a B58 derivative. Arguably, B58 engine is one of the best engines built so far.

For Cadillac to make a convincing product which competes with BMW, Mercedes and Audi, healthy sales in Europe are a must. Instead, Cadillac sales in Europe have been nearly insignificant.

http://carsalesbase.com/european-car...data/cadillac/

Finally, GM interior is well ... Generally Marginal at best.

But again, have you driven the car or seen the car? Your basing your assessment of on data that is unrelated to an empirical evaluation of the car. I'll wait to make an assessment until I get to drive it.

At some point the argument of "yeah, but the interior sucks" gets old Peeling E90 door handles and steering wheels anyone....