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      02-07-2017, 01:02 PM   #89
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Interesting, and certainly believable. So the only manual one would likely be a heavier, more powerful, larger BRZ of sorts. Not especially appealing.
Or, more accurately, a larger 86. But consider this:

The 86's big weakness is torque. Not power, but torque. It makes about 200 HP but only about 150 ft-lbs, IIRC, and weighs about 2,800 lbs. That's why it can do what it can do handling-wise on such skinny OEM rubber; it doesn't need wide, sticky rubber to put torque to tarmac because it doesn't have a lot of torque!

Let's assume a base Supra would weigh around 3,300 lbs. It will likely have an engine that makes roughly 50 HP more -- about 25 percent more than an 86 -- but roughly 70 percent more torque than the 86. And that's the base engine, NOT the tuned one.

For a four banger, that could be massively appealing.
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