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      02-11-2020, 02:35 PM   #17
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Civic Type R is a great drive but you'd have to like the styling and I don't see how that's possible. Focus RS would be appealing if you can handle the awful interior. Mk8 Golf R should be good, 324hp, likely a stronger rear bias to the Haldex setup and possibly less weight than the Mk7, but also not confirmed with a manual.

I'm a dissenter for the Mazda, absolutely hated the 2.5L motor in my 2016 hatch, terrible lump that killed a fun chassis and the new one has a much cheaper chassis. All style with no substance anymore.

It's not a great, or even good road car, and frankly, bad at even grocery runs, but if I had the garage space for one, I'd have an ND Miata, a wildly better car than the sad Toyobaru.
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