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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster
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Originally Posted by AD18
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Originally Posted by sq86
Your going to be disappointed. When in recent memory has anything that has gone electronic not sucked on the first few iterations?
They're still sorting out the EPS after how many years and updates? I don't understand when you have other companies like Porsche who seem to have come very close to what hydraulic steering was.
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Yeah I've wondered this as well. I don't know if Porsche's R&D budget is THAT much bigger than BMWs but what they make simply just works. I don't know why BMW seem to find this so hard, DCT vs PDK is not even a contest. |
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I know just enough engineering to be dangerous, but it seems to me that EPS is essentially an algorithm, and either the algorithm isn't accurate enough , or there is not enough processing speed to provide faster response , or potentially both.
BMWs algorithm certainly lacked feel on center, and also the feedback upon return to center was originally non existent. They have been fine tuning it for a decade and making improvements that are recognized by enthusiasts, reviewers, and casual drivers.
in the domain of EPS it's Porsche that is the best , Honda second, (Beginning with S2000) and I'm not even sure there is an honorable mention.
Is Porsche EPS BETTER than manual hydraulic feel ? Would you prefer to have sport modes of EPS vs a hydraulic rack. ? I think the answer here for most is no.
In the domain of automated transmission, once again , Porsche PDK is best , BMW DKG is a fairly distant second ... ? I'm absolutely unqualified to rank DCT transmissions so I will let others chime in here. Is the DCT transmission better than manual ? In this case , certainly many say DCT is faster, however other drivers prefer more involvement with MT. One thing that is clear however is that there is not universal agreement that the electronic transmission is superior.
In the domain of drive by wire throttle, did it ever be come preferred by drivers, or simply accepted ?
I suppose magnetic and other electronic shock. Absorber systems is another domain.... is there universal agreement that magnetic systems are Better than hydraulic ?
As we move to electrohydraulic braking systems , once again ... as with EPS.. there will be adjustable modes , but will the feel be better than a system with a brake booster ? History already is telling us an answer. |
I think all all those things make a car faster and safer at speed. And track specs sell cars which BMW is in business for. Even if most of us don't track them on regular basis. Personally ...I like the new stuff. The guys that like the old school feel of a true drivers car should go out and buy the (used) car they like. Lots of them out there to be had from several manufacturers. To each there own.
