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      07-13-2020, 08:52 PM   #69
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Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
The 8-series is having a hard time for many reasons, but mainly no one wants coupes, convertibles or sedans anymore, and at the $100k price point priorities and values change significantly and the 8 starts to shine less. The days of the convertible in general seem to be numbered honestly.

I found this article pretty interesting as they asked dealers why they are having a hard time selling and what prospective customers think when they look at the 8er.
https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/03/27/w...ell-in-the-us/
I believe that is wrong to conclude that "no one wants coupe".
I would like one and know many guys that would.
The problem is that the lay-out of the vehicle and interior ergonomics are terrible. The lack of leg space in the rear seats are the problem!
Honda Accord has pretty much the same length and very few can touch the bottom of the leg area in the front when the seat is pushed max in the rear, and there is still space in the back. At a normal setting (and I am pretty tall) in the rear there is a normal space for an adult to sit comfortably on a long trip.

They engineer it wrong and that is the issue.
And, the Gran Coupe ended up too long for the same reason.
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