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      08-14-2009, 07:58 PM   #75
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Originally Posted by stubenhocker View Post
For all of you Audi fanboys;

Nice job brah, that's not even the same car.

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Originally Posted by mrad01 View Post
That would be good! Then you will realise that the Skoda/VW/Audi S4 is actually just another incorrectly engineered car like all Skoda/VW/Audis.

Just to add a little balance to this, Top Gear magazine just completed a review of the Audi S4, BMW M335 and Merc Csomething...

Here is the final results and finishing paragraph:

1. BMW 335i
2. Audi S4
3. Merc Csomething...who cares

"The S4 didn't win. Dynamically it is a throwback to the previous model, which also felt like each of the four wheels didn't know where the others were going - and the body had another idea altogether. Push any of this versions many buttons and you still get a variation on ordinary. Bring on the RS4. Whatever it costs, it will be better value than this."

This is absolutely a typical Skoda/VW/Audi summary.

No matter what a Skoda/VW/Audi looks like from the outside (and I will admit, some do look hot) that initial "wow" goes away once I get into the tacky interior (those without any design sense use the word luxury) and then I give it back after I (once again) realise I have been fooled by a good looking car with no tactile driver's feedback and a cheezy "buttons everywhere" and "stick leather here, nice shiny bit there" interior which really is terrible to operate.

The best thing you can do is go to a driver comparison day. Get into the Skoda/VW/Audi first and drive it around - and then immediately get into a BMW. I have not seen one person yet who wants to get back into the Skoda/VW/Audi.

When I see an Audi less than a RS model with someone trying to drive fast - the words "OMG, clueless" enter my head. And then after meeting the driver - that's generally true.

I look forward to your "BMW fanboy", "Car snob", "You have no idea" etc etc flames. Already heard them before. All I ask is people THINK rather than go "ooooooh, that's nice looking. My mates will think I'm neato if I turn up in this!"


Just to finish off, here is another quote from Top Gear Magazine:
"The S4's steering is on Valium and about to nod off compared to the BMW it becomes imprecise and shakes itself senseless through choppy bends"
The results are still split on this. Both the mainstream British publications have preferred the dynamics of the 335i. I've read multiple German publications and an Australian publication that preferred the S4's dynamics.

Here's an example for those who read German...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/v...__BMW_335i.pdf

I've driven both and I have some seat time in the new S4 on a track. It's every bit to me as good as the 335i, and better in some ways...espeically in the wet (that's me drifting below).



In all seriousness, they are both great cars and I could see the US car mags going either way. They will probably side with the S4 though because it will win on paper anyway. They drive differently...some testers prefer the S4's dynamics and some prefer the BMW's.

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Originally Posted by mrad01 View Post
where is the rest of the article? I would like to see the outcome.
They prefer the S4.














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Originally Posted by Ramos View Post
Unreal how many Audi fanboy trolls are on here... The kind of people that only buy a car for the badge and looks and have never even driven by a race track, let alone on one
Yeah Ramos. I've never been on a racetrack.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E...ure_175600.htm

Actually I'm driving in all the clips in the video above. I shipped my Audi to Europe, burried the needle at 185 mph, and drove tracks like the Nurburgring and Spa for 3 years straight.

How 'bout you?



I also had a fantastic E34 535i which had M5/8 series running gear (at the 'ring below)

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