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      04-20-2019, 10:15 AM   #88
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well it is implied when the individual says designed from the track to the road.
Then someone posted an article saying how the 8 series was derived from the track car but if you read the article it only really talks about the exterior design. nothing but a marketing piece.
The 8 series is not an on road race car like a Ferrari or Porsche. may be in the price bracket but not the same. It is a GT car.
It drives nothing like a road race car. period.
do you have a racing license? what are your qualifications for determining a race car vs a GT car?

when did you drive the M8 ? the M8 GTE?

Do you not understand that your statements notwithstanding.. that the M8 was designed by BMW in the same way that Ferrari and Porsche design their race cars.. for the track ... and then adapted to the street.

in other words.. BMW declared.. we are going to do the same as our main competitors on track and design a car to RACE.. and then build a street car from it..... just as BMW themselves did back when they designed cars such as the M1 and the E30 M3.

https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...r-to-icon.html

of course some haven't realized what's going on...


https://www.bmw-motorsport.com/en/to...el_Scully.html


Michael Scully: "When a car like the BMW M8 GTE debuts publically before a flagship production car such as the BMW 8 Series, the continuity of performance and design character are of heightened importance because the race car plays such an active role in helping to shape and communicate the essence of the new BMW 8 Series


without a doubt.. these are designer comments... and they refer to design goals.. not engineering goals.

however.. the simple fact that with it's rich history in racing.. that this is the first model to be raced on track prior to a production car being sold, unequivocally illustrates true trickle down in design from the track to the street.

https://www.bmw-motorsport.com/en/to...mw-m8-gte.html

The BMW M8GTE has been homologated for both IMSA and WEC FIA.... but still not a race car eh?
not going to debate with anyone who thinks the 8 series is a sports car like a 911 or Ferrari. You keep telling people that.

Why is it a GT car? I believe BMW's target is the S63 coupe not 911 or Ferrari. So if you can convince BMW to market as a sports car against 911 and Ferraris than u would be correct.

Talking about history, when was the last time BMW made a real sports car?
GT cars are designed to be confortable on long trips. Usually means soft suspension and a big engine.

Sports cars are designed to go fast around a track and that means tight suspension to reduce weight transfer.

The 8 series was designed to win Le Mans and then converted to a road car. It's big true, but that makes it very stable and easy to drive at the limit compared to a 911.

The fact is the M8 has adaptive suspension so it will be comfortable on the highway. But it's not going to be S class or 7 series comfortable.

It's a sports car from the start.
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