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      11-28-2018, 11:05 AM   #55
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GM does not make only shitty sedans. The Cadillac ATS, CTS, CT6 and the Chevy SS were good. At least I'd take any of them over the soul-sucking Camry
But Cadillac also shot themselves in the ding dong by pricing right in line with the Germans. An ATS 2.0T might have a manual and an honest to god mechanical diff, but it also has this turd for a dash:

And because of that sky high pricing, they've had $14k incentives for at least two years, and similarly atrocious resale. The chassis is great, but the motors and transmissions are not. Add in sketchy resale and notoriously bad dealerships and it's a pretty easy decision to just stick to the Germans.
Can't really argue with that. They should have priced themselves against Toyota, and probably used the Chevy badge instead of Cadillac.

But a lot of people here are dismissing GM as not being able to make a good sedan, period. That was true for a long time, but not anymore.
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