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      12-16-2018, 10:20 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by HighlandPete View Post
I emphasis again that limiting MT across the range is part of getting BMW's fleet CO2 averages within target levels.

Even the MT gearbox makers like Getrag are having to semi automate MT to be competitive with AT on emission saving features. They have no option, as many of the features are so critical to reducing CO2 numbers.

I can't see BMW wanting developments like advanced MT 'AHT' (Automated Hybrid Transmission) and AT in the same line up. Why bother if MT is no longer the simple user controlled transmission. It won't satisfy the purists, who want total control, having sailing mode and functions like traffic jam assist taking priority over user control. MT, (as we know it), just doesn't fit the model for current and future emission limits.

The fact MT sales are falling anyway, helps the business model all the manufacturers have to follow.

Don't under estimate how emissions are dominating available models. We are seeing reduced model ranges in Europe, simply due to the new WLTP test regime.
So wait, the F30 difference in MPG is 2 MPG and 10 grams of CO2 per mile between the auto and manual. 95% (maybe more) are automatics, total CO2 output difference is not even measurable in real-world driving. So is it the market driving the change or planet-saving politicians?

Less than 8 years ago BMW was paying the highest fines in the industry for not meeting US CAFE targets. They just passed the cost onto the customer, and the customer was willing to pay it.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."

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