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      03-29-2021, 08:28 PM   #463
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Originally Posted by EME_Bounce View Post
I learned something a long time ago about the mentality of an engineer vs other people. Engineers find ways to make things possible while everyone else is making excuses.
Definitely true, but engineers - most not being product people - also massively fuck things up with good intentions & unintended consequences ... It's not just about bee-boop-look-at-the-numbers-bing-bong it's about creating an aspirational product people WANT to buy that's also better.

In the case of hydrogen, before we ever get to the product side, we first gotta consider some of the possible unintended consequences of "hydrogen" ...

Guess who's all for hydrogen? Big Oil! What could go wrong?
Heeeyyyy wait ... "Hydrocarbons" has "hydro" right in the name! So where does hydrogen come from?



Ok, cool, so there's green hydrogen but ... also grey - is that bad?



Oops, grey hydrogen is worse than fossil fuels! But that unintended consequence wouldn't happen would it?



Well, yeah, because why go green hydro when grey is so much cheaper?

This may explain why the biggest hydrogen advocates are companies like Equinor ASA, Royal Dutch Shell, PetroChina, and others ...

And hydrogen also needs long fragile global supply chains just like Big Oil: pipelines, ships & storage depots ... that doesn't seem better ...

And then there's the what the retail pump require:



Maybe there are ways around all this stuff, but hydrogen sure looks like the fastest road to hell for anyone trying to limit emissions.

And if your goal is limiting emissions why risk all of that and let the perfect be the enemy of the good: EVs?

Go with the good enough.
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